PROGRAMMING ALERT: 'Clemente' on PBS; 9pm
 

Recent discussion in the 'Stars' thread included Roberto Clemente and American Experience on PBS starting momentarily focusing on #21... FYI..

Translation : Steve is so erudite that he knows what is on PBS.

Pssssst, Scav...it means very smart.

LOL.. I was handicapping Wednesday's BEL and Thursday's HOL, and watching Antiques Roadshow, and it came up as being on next. Given that the famed 'Stars' thread featured Clemente prominantly, I thought the faithful might be interested... It's starting NOW! May be upstate/regional only.

Was that really necessary?

Pseudo necessary.

The guy with the bathtub that paid $2500 and it is now valued at $3500...I can't believe something like that was actually created on this earth, a retractable bathtub

Thanks for the tip, Steve. I'll never forget waking up on New Year's Day and my father telling me that Roberto Clemente had died in a plane crash. He was the greatest ballplayer I ever saw. 3,000 hits, .317 career batting average and a hit in all fourteen World Series games he played. But you had to see him play the outfield or run the bases to appreciate him. The greatest arm in terms of strength and accuracy ever, flawless in the outfield while catching fly balls down by his knees and the fiercest competitor. It's amazing that there's so little video of him playing the outfield. I've checked youtube and there's not much. He stopped leading the league in assists because everyone wised up and stopped trying to take an extra base on him.

If anyone wants the David Maraniss book on him, let me know and I'll send it to you.
Dick

:tro: that was awesome.

Thanks for the laugh.

:D Very Good Stuff DP We need to Take Up a collection And Get the Book for Chuck:D

Its on here in Middle TN.

my father's favorite player

No collection needed. I give away most of my books as long as the person promises to read it and then pass it on to others. Tell me who and where to send it.
Dick

I've read the book. Great player, great man. Not as good a hitter as Cabrera. Sorry for disappointing you guys with reality.

Different defensive metrics serve different purposes. Our Fielding Runs Above Average is strongest in terms of comparing performances across eras or levels, but it can produce different results than the others, which seem unanimous in their condemnation of Cabrera's work in the field. Even if he can't play defense, Cabrera is an MVP candidate every year thanks to his bat. Using Bill James's similarity scores, which don't adjust for era, Cabrera's top statistical comp at every age has been Hank Aaron, and if the visual doesn't work very well, the numbers don't lie-he's in the early stages of a Hall of Fame career. Moving to the Tigers changes nothing for him, save the possibility that he'll spend some time at DH or even first base. Concerns about his weight are overblown; if he was ripped, they'd say other things about him.

From 2008 Baseball Prospectus

I have said a prayer so God will not strike you dead.

Where was Coach Pants when that thread
morphed into baseball? threads must not diverge...

And this is in the horsey section?