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Kasept 06-13-2009 06:28 AM

6/13: BEL (P4); CD (Stakes); MTH; PHA; DEL
 
BELMONT PARK


POST-SCRATCHES


7th: CLM/N1Y, 3+, 6f-OFF THE TURF (P4, P3, DD)

Most Likely: #7 Call Tiger 4-1 6th
Next Best: #6 Bullara 3-1 3rd
Best Value: #8 King Rush 20-1 2nd
Exotics Use: #11 (AE) The Zipster 10-1 WON


8th: CLM/N2L, 3+, 8.5f-T (P3, DD, Super)

Best Value: #3 Classic Impact 12-1 7th
Most Likely: #8 Suite Ernie B 3-1 3rd
Next Best: #5 Tenacious Greg 7-2 WON
Super Add: #4 Dos Hombres 10-1 5th


9th: ALW/N2L, 3+, 8.5f (DD, Super)

Most Likely: #3 Top It 3-1 3rd
Best Value: #7 Gridiron 12-1 6th
Next Best: #4 Nowhere to Hide 3-1 4th
Super Add: #8 Long Jump 8-1 5th


10th: NYB-ALW/N1X, 3+, 8.5f-OFF THE TURF (Super)

Most Likely: #1A (POE) Tall Poppi 8-5 WON
Best Value: #2e Duggan entry 15-1 3rd
Next Best: #11 Theartofcompromise 6-1 5th
Super Add: #6 Triste Doble Q 20-1 8th

<$75 P4 Play:

7: 6-7
8: 3-4-5-8
9: 3-7
10: 1-2-6-7

2x4x2x4 = $64



CHURCHILL DOWNS


POST-SCRATCHES


7th: Jefferson Cup (Gr. II), 3yo, 9f-T (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #5 El Crespo 3-1 2nd
Best Value: #2 Jake Will Gallop 10-1 4th
Next Best: #3 No Inflation 7-2 3rd
Super Add: #4 Florentino 3-1 WON


8th: Northern Dancer (Gr. III), 3yo, 8.5f (.50 P4, P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #3 Warrior's Reward 6-5 2nd
Next Best: #2 Successful Dan 7-2 WON
Best Value: #8 Gresham 10-1 5th
Super Add: #1 Omniscent 9-2 3rd


9th: Fleur De Lis (Gr. II), F&M-3+, 9f (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #3 Miss Isella 2-1 WON
Best Value: #2 Distinctive Dixie 10-1 5th
Next Best: #4 Santa Teresita 3-1 4th
Super Add: #8 Swift Temper 8-1 2nd


10th: Stephen Foster H. (Gr. I), 3+, 9f (DD, Super)

Best Value: #2 Macho Again 10-1 WON
Most Likely: #3 Einstein 2-1 3rd
Next Best: #5 Researcher 4-1 6th
Super Add: #4 Arson Squad 4-1 5th


11th: Regret (Gr. II), 3yo-F, 9f-T (Super, Super High 5)

Most Likely: #7 Hot Cha Cha 8-1 3rd
Best Value: #4 SCR
Next Best: #3 Rena 8-1 8th
Exotics Use: #5 Banker's Choice 9-2 5th
High 5 Play: #2 The Best Day Ever 8-1 2nd


<$75 P4 Play:

8: 2-3
9: 2-3-4-8
10: 2-3-4
11: 2-3-[4/SCR]-5-6-7

2x4x3x6 = 144 x .50 = $72



CALDER RACE COURSE

4th: MSW, 2yo, 4.5f -- SPOT PLAY

#11-AE SCRATCHED THANK U PHILLIPPE (6-1): Wolfson trainee working sharp for debut; May be special and wins if drawing in..



MONMOUTH PARK


PRE-SCRATCHES


9th: 2nd Monmouth, 3+, 9f-T (DD, Super)

Most Likely: #5 Strike a Deal 4-1 7th
Best Value: #2 Banrock 8-1 2nd
Next Best: #1 Proudinsky 3-1 3rd
Super Add: #4 Grand Couturier 7-2 5th



PHILADELPHIA PARK


POST-SCRATCHES


8th: 3rd Jostle, 3yo-F, 6.5f (DD)

Most Likely: #5 Saarlight 3-1 8th
Best Value: #8 Northern Belle 12-1 2nd
Next Best: #4 Missunitednations 12-1 4th
Exotics Use: #7 Bold Union 6-1 6th



DELAWARE PARK


POST-SCRATCHES


9th: Rooney Memorial, F&M-3+, 9f-OFF THE TURF (DD, Super)

Most Likely: #2 SCR
Best Value: #5 SCR
Next Best: #10 SCR
Super Add: #1 SCR



Good luck!
Steve

Holland Hacker 06-13-2009 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Best Value: #3 Can't Refuse 20-1
Steve

I think Can't Refuse is the 4 not the 3.

Also races 7 & 10 are OFF THE TURF.

BELMONT PARK TRACK & TURF CONDITIONS FOR SATURDAY, 6/13/2009 TRACK CONDITIONS Weather: Partly Sunny Track: Fast Turf: Soft Races off the Turf: 7,10 For the most up to date Track conditions please view the Scratches/Changes page on NYRA.com

Good Luck Today.

Let me know if you would like to use any of my photos in the calendar you're putting together for 2009. I got some good shots last Saturday of Munnings, Fabulous Strike, Gabby's Golden Gal & Summer Bird also have some fo Captain Candyman Can from the Bayshore.

HH

DinNJ 06-13-2009 07:47 AM

9th: 2nd Monmouth, 3+, 9f-T (DD, Super)

Most Likely: #5 Strike a Deal 4-1
Best Value: #2 Banrock 8-1
Next Best: #1 Proudinsky 3-1
Super Add: #4 Grand Couturier 7-2

Steve - No Precious Passion? I think he's going to take them all the way at a nice price. The guy loves Monmouth and I think GC and Proudinsky are going to get way overbet

VOL JACK 06-13-2009 07:53 AM

Foster
 
$20 Ex 2-3
$10 Ex 2-6

$5 2-5,6,7,-3

GoIrish 06-13-2009 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DinNJ
9th: 2nd Monmouth, 3+, 9f-T (DD, Super)

Most Likely: #5 Strike a Deal 4-1
Best Value: #2 Banrock 8-1
Next Best: #1 Proudinsky 3-1
Super Add: #4 Grand Couturier 7-2

Steve - No Precious Passion? I think he's going to take them all the way at a nice price. The guy loves Monmouth and I think GC and Proudinsky are going to get way overbet

I like the 2 for value as well. Desormeaux's only mount of the day. Thinking about taking a shot with a 4x3x2x1x3 $0.50 P5.

Kasept 06-13-2009 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DinNJ
9th: 2nd Monmouth, 3+, 9f-T (DD, Super)

Most Likely: #5 Strike a Deal 4-1
Best Value: #2 Banrock 8-1
Next Best: #1 Proudinsky 3-1
Super Add: #4 Grand Couturier 7-2

Steve - No Precious Passion? I think he's going to take them all the way at a nice price. The guy loves Monmouth and I think GC and Proudinsky are going to get way overbet

I'm unconvinced on Passion today.. May be using this as a tightener for the U.N., and won't be that much better of a price than the logical/obvious 1 and 4. And Precious Passion is going to get pressure on the front end too..

NTamm1215 06-13-2009 08:53 AM

I don't get leaving the 5th on the turf but taking two off in the Pick 4 sequence on a day where the courses will dry as it wears on. The guarantee shouldn't be a problem but I just don't understand the cherry-picking of which ones are off.

NT

Kasept 06-13-2009 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215
I don't get leaving the 5th on the turf but taking two off in the Pick 4 sequence on a day where the courses will dry as it wears on. The guarantee shouldn't be a problem but I just don't understand the cherry-picking of which ones are off.

NT

As Nick indicates, 7th and 10th OFF THE TURF at Belmont...

parsixfarms 06-13-2009 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215
I don't get leaving the 5th on the turf but taking two off in the Pick 4 sequence on a day where the courses will dry as it wears on. The guarantee shouldn't be a problem but I just don't understand the cherry-picking of which ones are off.

NT

An educated guess is that it's a function of which fields they think will be the least decimated by scratches. Both the 7th and 10th have several "dirt" horses in the respective fields, either in the body of the race or as MTOs and, as a result, are still likely to end up with fields of 8 to 10 horses. The other races would likely draw fewer horses if they took them off the turf.

the_fat_man 06-13-2009 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215
I don't get leaving the 5th on the turf but taking two off in the Pick 4 sequence on a day where the courses will dry as it wears on. The guarantee shouldn't be a problem but I just don't understand the cherry-picking of which ones are off.

NT

Does it matter? NYRA turf SUCKS today compared to CD, MTH, and DEL, etc. It's a ****in Saturday, is this the best they can do? I can get claiming race just about anywhere.
And, this taking races off **** is just old news. Sooner or later NYRA will realize that they're not the only game in town anymore and many, like me, have moved on to other tracks. They taken what used to be arguably the best turf meet of the year (rivaling SAR) and turned into garbage. I suppose their landscaper must have the final say: SAVE the GRASS at all cost.

the_fat_man 06-13-2009 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
7th: Jefferson Cup (Gr. II), 3yo, 9f-T (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #5 El Crespo 3-1
Best Value: #2 Jake Will Gallop 10-1
Next Best: #3 No Inflation 7-2
Super Add: #4 Florentino 3-1

9th: 2nd Monmouth, 3+, 9f-T (DD, Super)

Most Likely: #5 Strike a Deal 4-1
Best Value: #2 Banrock 8-1
Next Best: #1 Proudinsky 3-1
Super Add: #4 Grand Couturier 7-2


Where's El Crespo's 'good' race? Influenced by Leparoux being up, I looked real hard and couldn't find one.

And, while Strike a Deal almost never gets a good trip and sooner or later will get one, how in the world did you leave Buddy's Humor out after his butcher job ride last out? Now he's cutting back on a course he likes.

Holland Hacker 06-13-2009 10:13 AM

Don't Tell me NYRA cares the the FAT_Man Says
 
Did they do an about face and leave the 7th & 10th on the turf?

Scratches/Changes


These changes added at 6/13/2009 11:03:00 AM Eastern Time BELMONT PARK SCRATCHES AND PROGRAM CHANGES FOR SATURDAY, 6/13/2009 TRACK CONDITIONS Weather: MOSTLY CLOUDY 72 Track: GOOD Turf: SOFT Turf Races: 3, 5, 7, 8, 10 Inner: Set at 27 Ft Widener: Set at 18 Ft P6 Carryover: NONE Takeout - 16.00 % Kind of makes it difficult to handicap and put together a ticket for the late pick four unless you wait until the last minute.

blackthroatedwind 06-13-2009 10:15 AM

No.

Holland Hacker 06-13-2009 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
No.

THAT truly is a relief!

Hey if you're arouund tomorrow and Graphite Halo manages to win feel free to join me in the WC for a photo if you have the time.

Kasept 06-13-2009 10:41 AM

BELMONT P4 SCR'S

Track: GOOD
Turf: SOFT
Turf Races: 3, 5, 8


7TH

1 (poe) Nacascolo Early OFF TURF
3 Jelly Roll Rumble Early
4 Can't Refuse Early
5 I've Got Speed Early
9 Absolute Return Early
10 Intiyaco (ARG) Early


8TH

11 Carry the Day Early
12 Patent Pending Tom Early
13 Nolite Timere Early


10TH

1 (poe) Woodrunner Early OFF TURF
2 (poe) Second Mortgage Early
3 Brushed Prince Early
5 Piazza Di Spagna Early
8 Puregoodniss Early
9 Striking Rizzi Early
13 Sergeant Karakorum Early

Kasept 06-13-2009 10:46 AM

DELAWARE: Rooney SCR'S

RACE 9-Turf

#5 +2
Scratch #6 Encanto Park
Scratch #9 American Border
Scratch #11 Ocala Gator
Scratch #14 All Night Labor

blackthroatedwind 06-13-2009 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holland Hacker
THAT truly is a relief!

Hey if you're arouund tomorrow and Graphite Halo manages to win feel free to join me in the WC for a photo if you have the time.


Yeah, that's a great idea!

Thanks, really, but think about it.

Kasept 06-13-2009 10:49 AM

PHILLY PARK-Jostle SCR'S

Race: 8

3 She's a Wow Has been scratched
9 Key Lime Baby Has been scratched
11 On the Menu Has been scratched

skippy3481 06-13-2009 05:12 PM

Thanx steve i hit the pick 4 for 2 bucks because i saw u liked macho again. Thank you sir

VOL JACK 06-13-2009 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skippy3481
Thanx steve i hit the pick 4 for 2 bucks because i saw u liked macho again. Thank you sir

I gave u a $5 tri, and I only put one horse on top.;) :$:


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