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Kasept 06-03-2009 04:48 PM

6/6 (HOL): Whittingham (G1); Ack Ack (G3); Redondo Beach
 
6TH (2:34) Redondo Beach S.

1 Mile (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $70,000

1 Dawn After Dawn Rosario J 121 L
2 Miss Singhsix (IRE) Solis A 119 L
3 Charming Legacy (IRE) Talamo J 119 L
4 Gorgeous Goose Nakatani C S 123 L
5 Gotta Have Her Baze T C 119 L
6 Bahama Mama (IRE) Smith M E 119 L
7 Tuscan Evening (IRE) Bejarano R 119 L
8 Briecat Garcia M 121 L
9 Bootleg Annie Espinoza V 123 L



8TH (3:44) Ack Ack H. (G3)

7 1/2 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Noble Court Rosario J 120 L
2 Luhuk's Dancer Espinoza V 110 L
3 Mutak Gold Gryder A T 115 L
4 Davos Baze T C 113 L
5 Prussian Smith M E 115 L
6 Doppio Solis A 115 L
7 Paul's Hope Talamo J 115 L
8 Rush With Thunder Quinonez A 109 L
9 Sierra Sunset Garcia M 119
10 Liberian Freighter Bejarano R 120 L
11 Star Nicholas Baze M C 116 L



9TH (4:40) Charles Whittingham Memorial H. (G1)

1 1/4 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Union Avenue Bejarano R 114 L
2 Midships Espinoza V 118 L
3 Liquidity Baze T C 112 L
4 Globetrotter Talamo J 113 L
5 Madeo Smith M E 119 L
6 Artiste Royal (IRE) Rosario J 118 L

tiggerv 06-03-2009 06:23 PM

They should bring Lava Man out of retirement for that Whittingham.

CSC 06-04-2009 01:45 PM

1 1/4 Miles (Inner turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 Marsh Side Castellano J J 117 L
2 Court Vision Dominguez R A 120 L
3 Premium Gold Prado E S 113 L
4 Gio Ponti Gomez G K 120 L
5 Champs Elysees (GB) Leparoux J R 119 L
6 Optimer (ARG) Rodriguez R R 110 L
7 Wesley Desormeaux K J 116 L
8 Senior Luzzi M J 112 Blk-Off L
9 Better Talk Now Rose J 117 L
10 Cosmonaut Lezcano J 116 L
11 Interpatation Maragh R 114 L
12 Lauro (GER) Starke A 117 L
13 Cowboy Cal Velazquez J R 120 L
14 Zambezi Sun (GB) Leparoux J R 116 L

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9TH (4:40) Charles Whittingham Memorial H. (G1)

1 1/4 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Union Avenue Bejarano R 114 L
2 Midships Espinoza V 118 L
3 Liquidity Baze T C 112 L
4 Globetrotter Talamo J 113 L
5 Madeo Smith M E 119 L
6 Artiste Royal (IRE) Rosario J 118 L

Side by side comparision, it's almost not fair both races are rated the same status. Crazy...!

10 pnt move up 06-04-2009 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
1 1/4 Miles (Inner turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 Marsh Side Castellano J J 117 L
2 Court Vision Dominguez R A 120 L
3 Premium Gold Prado E S 113 L
4 Gio Ponti Gomez G K 120 L
5 Champs Elysees (GB) Leparoux J R 119 L
6 Optimer (ARG) Rodriguez R R 110 L
7 Wesley Desormeaux K J 116 L
8 Senior Luzzi M J 112 Blk-Off L
9 Better Talk Now Rose J 117 L
10 Cosmonaut Lezcano J 116 L
11 Interpatation Maragh R 114 L
12 Lauro (GER) Starke A 117 L
13 Cowboy Cal Velazquez J R 120 L
14 Zambezi Sun (GB) Leparoux J R 116 L

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9TH (4:40) Charles Whittingham Memorial H. (G1)

1 1/4 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Union Avenue Bejarano R 114 L
2 Midships Espinoza V 118 L
3 Liquidity Baze T C 112 L
4 Globetrotter Talamo J 113 L
5 Madeo Smith M E 119 L
6 Artiste Royal (IRE) Rosario J 118 L

Side by side comparision, it's almost not fair both races are rated the same status. Crazy...!

do they have planes in NY, that looks like easy money to me. Liquidity, Union Avenue is woefully average and Madeo is better at a mile, Artiste Royal is ok at best. Midships is decent.

CSC 06-04-2009 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
do they have planes in NY, that looks like easy money to me. Liquidity, Union Avenue is woefully average and Madeo is better at a mile, Artiste Royal is ok at best. Midships is decent.

Frankel is a legendary handicapper, therefore I wonder why he didn't bother splitting up ZS and CE unless he wants to enhance MS's chances, that's just about the biggest discrepency in similar grade 1's on the same day that I can remember.

EDIT - It's also a little strange to see Better Talk Now without Ramon on him, wonder if this will be his last Manhattan. One of his more memorable races was in this race when he snaked through the field to just get up beating Shakis among others.

10 pnt move up 06-04-2009 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
Frankel is a legendary handicapper, therefore I wonder why he didn't bother splitting up ZS and CE unless he wants to enhance MS's chances, that's just about the biggest discrepency in similar grade 1's on the same day that I can remember.

well the 2, 4, 5, 13, 14 all raced out west before, seems like you would go for the easiest spot to cash, there is no value in future breeding winning either race.

CSC 06-04-2009 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
well the 2, 4, 5, 13, 14 all raced out west before, seems like you would go for the easiest spot to cash, there is no value in future breeding winning either race.

Agreed. :zz: The positive is we have an intriguing race in the Manhattan though. Maybe Frankel is losing his marbles...;)

10 pnt move up 06-06-2009 08:59 PM

So is friggen Shirreffs going to stop running Madeo at 10 furlongs, he does not want to go that far?


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