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brockguy 05-27-2009 04:52 PM

Conduit back tomorrow evening
 
He's the 4th Euro Breeders Cup winner from last year to return (the previous 3, Muhannak, Goldikova and Donativum have all been beaten and Ravens Pass has been retired). He has a 7 pound penalty against some solid opposition.


1 2111-
Conduit
ch c Dalakhani (IRE) - Well Head (IRE)
4, 9-7 (216)(D) (Ballymacoll Stud) (Drawn 12)
Sir M Stoute
R L Moore

2 2712-
Blue Monday
b g Darshaan - Lunda (IRE)
8, 9-3 (216)(D3) (Mr R A Pegum) (Drawn 2)
R Charlton
S Drowne

3 10-71
Allied Powers
b c Invincible Spirit (IRE) - Always Friendly (GB)
4, 9-0 (13)(D) (Mr David Fish And Mr Edward Ware) (Drawn 11)
M L W Bell
J P Spencer

4 3142-
Campanologist
b c Kingmambo (USA) - Ring Of Music (GB)
4, 9-0 (307)(C) (Godolphin) (Drawn 1)
Saeed Suroor
T Durcan

5 179-6
Cima De Triomphe
gr c Galileo (IRE) - Sopran Londa (IRE)
4, 9-0 (33) (Mr Teruya Yoshida) (Drawn 8)
L M Cumani
C Lemaire

6 384-3
Drumfire
b c Danehill Dancer (IRE) - Witch Of Fife (USA)
5, 9-0 (20)(C)(D) (Kennet Valley Thoroughbreds IV) (Drawn 9)
M Johnston
R Hills

7 30-85
Indian Days
ch c Daylami (IRE) - Cap Coz (IRE)
4, 9-0 (22)(C)(D2) (Mr D J Fish) (Drawn 10)
J G Given
A Munro

8 113-5
Perks
b g Selkirk (USA) - Green Charter (GB)
4, 9-0 (25)(D2) (Mr Benny Andersson) (Drawn 4)
J L Dunlop
J Quinn

9 147-2
Pipedreamer
b c Selkirk (USA) - Follow A Dream (USA)
5, 9-0 (34)(D3) (Cheveley Park Stud) (Drawn 3)
J H M Gosden
J Fortune

10 1660-
Smokey Oakey
b g Tendulkar (USA) - Veronica
5, 9-0 (209)(CD) (Judi Dench And Bryan Agar) (Drawn 7)
M H Tompkins
M Hills

11 80-12
Staying On
b g Invincible Spirit (IRE) - Lakatoi (GB)
4, 9-0 (22) (Mr M H Dixon) (Drawn 6)
W R Swinburn
E Ahern

12 2-243
Steele Tango
ch c Okawango (USA) - Waltzing Around (IRE)
4, 9-0 (20)(C) (The Thirty Acre Racing Partnership) (Drawn 5)
R A Teal
L Morris

13 671-4
Stotsfold
b g Barathea (IRE) - Eliza Acton (GB)
6, 9-0 (34)(D6) (Mr P W Harris) (Drawn 13)
W R Swinburn
A Kirby

my miss storm cat 05-27-2009 08:42 PM

Pretty nice field! Had no idea Blue Monday was still in training.

CDT is a nice horse (too)..... :)

my miss storm cat 05-28-2009 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Pretty nice field! Had no idea Blue Monday was still in training.

CDT is a nice horse (too)..... :)

:tro: :)

CIMA TRIUMPHS IN BRIGADIER

By Tom Peacock, PA Sport

Cima De Triomphe (4-1) just prevailed from Conduit in a desperately tight finish to the Blue Square Brigadier Gerard Stakes at Sandown.

Making his seasonal return, St Leger and Breeders' Cup hero Conduit did virtually everything right, steadily picking up passing the three furlong marker and fighting off the challenge of 15-8 favourite Pipedreamer, who looked all over the winner at one stage before seemingly running out of gas and not making the frame.

All the while, however, Christophe Lemaire was getting his Luca Cumani-trained four-year-old into top gear and the pair got there right on the line to score by a nose in receipt of 7lb from the runner-up.

Stotsfold was a further length back in third.

NoChanceToDance 05-28-2009 02:10 PM

Conduit ran better than I expected him to over a trip short of his best.

my miss storm cat 05-28-2009 02:15 PM

I love Conduit... nice to see this boy get a win though.

(See I don't always root for Godolphin). :p

Full results...

http://horses.sportinglife.com/Full_...310708,00.html

brockguy 05-28-2009 02:33 PM

I had a lot of faith in conduit today and backed accordingly! He will be much better this year than last year and always thought he could be competitive over 10. My betting has been terribly frustrating recently!

NoChanceToDance 05-28-2009 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy
I had a lot of faith in conduit today and backed accordingly! He will be much better this year than last year and always thought he could be competitive over 10. My betting has been terribly frustrating recently!

I was very, very keen on Pipedreamer. He stopped like he had been shot though. Perhaps he does need a return to a mile. The yard were very confident today, and to see him run like that will have many people scartching their heads in Newmarket tonight.

brockguy 05-28-2009 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
I was very, very keen on Pipedreamer. He stopped like he had been shot though. Perhaps he does need a return to a mile. The yard were very confident today, and to see him run like that will have many people scartching their heads in Newmarket tonight.

Haven't seen the race yet but he should defo be tried over a mile. The owners do have Virtual but they are known to race their own.

my miss storm cat 07-01-2009 12:57 PM

Trying to catch up... is he definite for Saturday?

NoChanceToDance 07-01-2009 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Trying to catch up... is he definite for Saturday?

Yes, I'm pretty sure he's running. Michael Stoute is also considering a pacemaker to help him.

Can't see past Sea The Stars and Archipenko to be honest. This will ulimately be the acid test for Sea The Stars. Is he as goos as we all think? Can he do it against the older horses? Or are the three year old crop not anything special?

chucklestheclown 07-01-2009 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
Yes, I'm pretty sure he's running. Michael Stoute is also considering a pacemaker to help him.

Can't see past Sea The Stars and Archipenko to be honest. This will ulimately be the acid test for Sea The Stars. Is he as goos as we all think? Can he do it against the older horses? Or are the three year old crop not anything special?

Hoping for the first...betting on the latter.

my miss storm cat 07-02-2009 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

Can't see past Sea The Stars and Archipenko to be honest.

Agree on Sea the Stars, Archi is out. :(

"Archipenko has a swollen fetlock joint and we’ve really had no option. This is even more aggravating because his preparation for the Eclipse has been great. He was doing excellent work and would have had a winning chance." - MdK

Sea the Stars / Cima de Triomphe / Conduit or Rip

NoChanceToDance 07-02-2009 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Agree on Sea the Stars, Archi is out. :(

"Archipenko has a swollen fetlock joint and we’ve really had no option. This is even more aggravating because his preparation for the Eclipse has been great. He was doing excellent work and would have had a winning chance." - MdK

Sea the Stars / Cima de Triomphe / Conduit or Rip

That's certainly made Sea The Stars' job much more easy (if a Gr1 race can be easy). The likes of Conduit are beatable and have question marks, but a horse like Archipenko had nothing to prove and we all knew he is very good. Conduit still has to prove he's out of the top drawer in my opinion. I know he won the BC turf, but to me he's a stayer, not a ten furlong horse. I think Sea The Stars (Gr1 winner over a mile) will have too much toe for him, and on fast ground (it's been baking hot here all week), that is something else that is very much in Sea The Stars' favour.

brockguy 07-04-2009 09:10 AM

should be some race. Ive layed Sea The Stars as I thought he was way too short. He should win, but hes not the certainty many people think. I think Conduit will run him really really close.. Cima will round out the top 3

my miss storm cat 07-04-2009 10:48 AM

Saturday July 4 2009
Sandown 15:15 - Result
Coral-eclipse (group 1)
£500000 added, 3yo plus, 1m 2f 7y, Class 1, £283850 penalty, 10 ran
Going: Good, Good to Firm in places
Race Report »
Winning Time: 2m 03.4s 14:05

16:55 17:30 Pos. Dr. Dist. Horse Wt Jockey Trainer Age SP
1 5 Sea The Stars (IRE) 8-10 M J Kinane J M Oxx 3 4/7 f
held up in 5th on inside, eased left travelling well 3f out, quickened to lead 2f out, ridden and looked pressed 1f out, quickened again to draw away final 100 yards opened 8/13 touched 4/6 £4000-£6000 (x2) £2000-£3000 (x2) £1600-£2400 £1000-£1500 (x2) £800-£1200 (x5) £667-£1000 (x3) £400-£600 (x4) £4000-£6500 £1600-£2600 £400-£650
2 6 1 Rip Van Winkle (IRE) 8-10 J Fortune A P O'Brien 3 11/2
held up in 7th, headway to chase winner inside final 2f, quickened and driven to challenge 1f out, kept on well, readily held final 100 yards opened 6/1 touched 13/2 £19500-£3000 Each Way £12000-£2000 Each Way £3000-£500 Each Way
3 9 4½ Conduit (IRE) 9-7 R L Moore Sir Michael Stoute 4 9/2
held up in rear, headway on outside over 2f out, chased leading pair well over 1f out, hung right under pressure, no impression over 1f out opened 5/1 £3000-£600 £2500-£500
4 2 5 Cima De Triomphe (IRE) 9-7 C P Lemaire L M Cumani 4 11/1
held up towards rear, troubled passage from over 2f out, hanging right, kept on to take moderate 4th 1f out opened 12/1 touched 14/1
5 1 3¾ Steele Tango (USA) 9-7 D Holland R A Teal 4 100/1
chased leaders in 4th, pushed along 3f out, weakened 2f out
6 3 ½ Jukebox Jury (IRE) 8-10 R Ffrench M Johnston 3 50/1
held up in 6th, pushed along entering straight, no chance final 2f
7 8 2½ Twice Over 9-7 T P Queally H R A Cecil 4 14/1
held up in rear, pushed along on inside over 3f out, hung right after, never a factor touched 16/1 £8000-£500 Each Way
8 4 11 Malibu Bay (USA) 8-10 C O'Donoghue A P O'Brien 3 100/1
chased clear leading pair, ridden and closed well over 2f out, weakened inside final 2f
9 10 6 Lang Shining (IRE) 9-7 R Hughes Sir Michael Stoute 5 150/1
led after 1f, strong pace, headed 2f out, soon weakened and eased opened 200/1
10 7 1½ Set Sail (IRE) 8-10 J A Heffernan A P O'Brien 3 200/1
led 1f, pressed leader until 3f out, weakened 2f out opened 150/1 touched 100/1


Tote Win: £1.50 Tote Place: £1.02,£2.10,£1.80
Straight Forecast: £4.37 Tricast: £8.39 Exacta: £4.20 Trifecta: £9.90
Swingers:1&2:£1.90, 2&3:£3.30, 1&3:£1.40

brockguy 07-04-2009 11:10 AM

some win!

NoChanceToDance 07-04-2009 11:13 AM

He's just too good.

He proved he had plenty of speed in the Guineas, showed he stayed a mile and a half in the derby and today he showed his class and guts when fighting right up to the line.

According to Kinane he wasn't doing a tap in front, and won pretty easily. He isn't the sort of horse that will win by open lengths, he just does enough.

Kinane said that they went very fast today, but it still wasn't fast enough for this horse :eek:

The opportunities are endless for this horse. He'd be more than capable of winning over a mile again, and a mile and a half. I'd love to see him run in the BC Mile or even the Classic.

King Glorious 07-04-2009 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
He's just too good.

He proved he had plenty of speed in the Guineas, showed he stayed a mile and a half in the derby and today he showed his class and guts when fighting right up to the line.

According to Kinane he wasn't doing a tap in front, and won pretty easily. He isn't the sort of horse that will win by open lengths, he just does enough.

Kinane said that they went very fast today, but it still wasn't fast enough for this horse :eek:

The opportunities are endless for this horse. He'd be more than capable of winning over a mile again, and a mile and a half. I'd love to see him run in the BC Mile or even the Classic.

Apparently, you haven't watched American racing this year. This horse could win the Mile then come back a couple of hours later and beat our pathetic Classic horses. You could probably squeeze the Turf in there too.

NoChanceToDance 07-04-2009 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious
Apparently, you haven't watched American racing this year. This horse could win the Mile then come back a couple of hours later and beat our pathetic Classic horses. You could probably squeeze the Turf in there too.

That bad, huh?

my miss storm cat 07-05-2009 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious
Apparently, you haven't watched American racing this year. This horse could win the Mile then come back a couple of hours later and beat our pathetic Classic horses. You could probably squeeze the Turf in there too.

:D :tro:

Nice picture with owner Christopher Tsui (yea for Hong Kong owners)...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/4...wner_ap766.jpg

I believe it was taken before he fainted today (not kidding). How sweet.


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