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Thunder Gulch 05-15-2009 08:36 AM

The official Preakness undercard sux thread
 
Graded stakes full of cheap allowance horses...statebred starter stakes for 5k claimers...entire fields of claimers horses with win profiles of 20-2-2-3....ahhh, Maryland my Maryland

cantknockthehustle 05-15-2009 08:53 AM

totally agree, and the undercard usually is decent. I'm still bitter about the a.m. stakes races.

-BT- 05-15-2009 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch
Graded stakes full of cheap allowance horses...statebred starter stakes for 5k claimers...entire fields of claimers horses with win profiles of 20-2-2-3....ahhh, Maryland my Maryland


i'd rather cap a tues card at river downs then try to make sense of these horses and stakes. I thought it was bad last year, boy was i spoiled

-bt-

Thunder Gulch 05-15-2009 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cantknockthehustle
totally agree, and the undercard usually is decent. I'm still bitter about the a.m. stakes races.

I was mad until I started looking at the farbage on the early part of the card, but now I'm content to show up at noon around R6 and skip some of the early b.s.

Coach Pants 05-15-2009 09:57 AM

The purses are bunk. The sport hasn't even attempted to be competitive with the breeding game.

-BT- 05-15-2009 10:21 AM

on a positive note, the Hirsch Jacobs is no joke.... looks to be very competitive

-bt-

randallscott35 05-15-2009 10:27 AM

Have to agree. Pretty unimpressive, though I like Belmont's card.

Antitrust32 05-15-2009 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I like Belmont's card also. I'm just getting into the late 4 right now, which is really a late 3 with the free square in the Shuvee.


who do you like in the shuvee?

-BT- 05-15-2009 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I like Belmont's card also. I'm just getting into the late 4 right now, which is really a late 3 with the free square in the Shuvee.


don't tell me that, i don't have strength to play multi-cards on saturday since i'm attending the preakness. But its not a big surprise that there are better cards to wager on saturday. I can only put soo much attention into 5K state-bred claimers running for a 35K handicap race


-bt-

Travis Stone 05-15-2009 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I like Belmont's card also. I'm just getting into the late 4 right now, which is really a late 3 with the free square in the Shuvee.

Seventh Street would have been 1-9 in this race... trade a 1-9 for a 3-5.

2 Dollar Bill 05-15-2009 11:09 AM

Is it worth the price of the DRF ? :zz:

ateamstupid 05-15-2009 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
who do you like in the shuvee?

Seattle Smooth is a lock.

As for the Preakness undercard, I think the Dixie is very good. Beyond that, yeah it kinda sucks, but Churchill's undercard wasn't much better. ACCREDIT won the freaking CD stakes.

Thunder Gulch 05-15-2009 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Seattle Smooth is a lock.

As for the Preakness undercard, I think the Dixie is very good. Beyond that, yeah it kinda sucks, but Churchill's undercard wasn't much better. ACCREDIT won the freaking CD stakes.

Accredit won because it was in the slop, and anyone not getting a piece of that one was asleep at the wheel.

The class of stock that day compared to what is in tommorrow might as well be a different breed with very few exceptions.

ateamstupid 05-15-2009 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch
Accredit won because it was in the slop, and anyone not getting a piece of that one was asleep at the wheel.

The class of stock that day compared to what is in tommorrow might as well be a different breed with very few exceptions.

The point is he's a total mediocrity, slop or no. That hopeless Temple Street almost won a G1 on Derby Day despite having a high Beyer of like 80 FGS. At least Pimlico is trying to card some meaningful races and not giving us two three-year-old turf allowances masquerading as "graded stakes". Besides the Derby and Woodford, the Derby card sucked quality-wise, and it's the same with the Preakness card (Preakness/Dixie).

The Belmont undercard routinely blows both of them out of the water anyway, so this is really a pointless argument.

letswastemoney 05-15-2009 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Seattle Smooth is a lock.

As for the Preakness undercard, I think the Dixie is very good. Beyond that, yeah it kinda sucks, but Churchill's undercard wasn't much better. ACCREDIT won the freaking CD stakes.

You don't think Sea Chanter has a chance? She didn't do too badly in her dirt try last time.

outofthebox 05-15-2009 04:33 PM

Even if the card sucks, is anyone going to give the 1million pick 4 a try?

ateamstupid 05-15-2009 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
You don't think Sea Chanter has a chance? She didn't do too badly in her dirt try last time.

Not really. Seattle Smooth is a Grade 1 filly against a bunch of allowance horses. Sea Chanter's a turf horse that ran OK turf-to-dirt. Those types usually regress in their next start, and she'll be overbet by anybody trying to beat the big filly. My guess is she'll be back on grass soon.

Thunder Gulch 05-15-2009 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
The point is he's a total mediocrity, slop or no. That hopeless Temple Street almost won a G1 on Derby Day despite having a high Beyer of like 80 FGS. At least Pimlico is trying to card some meaningful races and not giving us two three-year-old turf allowances masquerading as "graded stakes". Besides the Derby and Woodford, the Derby card sucked quality-wise, and it's the same with the Preakness card (Preakness/Dixie).

The Belmont undercard routinely blows both of them out of the water anyway, so this is really a pointless argument.

Meaningful???? Even the graded races have multiple horses coming in 2nd off a claim. Maybe a few Churchill races were masquerading, but with Pimlico there is no doubt they are cheap stock.

philcski 05-15-2009 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Not really. Seattle Smooth is a Grade 1 filly against a bunch of allowance horses. Sea Chanter's a turf horse that ran OK turf-to-dirt. Those types usually regress in their next start, and she'll be overbet by anybody trying to beat the big filly. My guess is she'll be back on grass soon.

$5 says Sea Chanter runs at Pimlico anyways.


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