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The Indomitable DrugS 05-06-2009 03:26 PM

Hopefully this one passes as well
 
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...638&source=rss

Travis Stone 05-06-2009 03:30 PM

I'm a big horse racing guy, but I also enjoy poker, and the revenue our nation is leaving on the table by not legalizing and regulating poker is sick.

10 pnt move up 05-06-2009 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

If it does I actually might start betting again,

I assume Pinnacle opens back up to the US customers?

Danzig 05-06-2009 03:34 PM

when i attempted to open an acct on tvg, it said arkansas wasn't allowed.
i opened a twin spires acct for the video, it didn't say a word about the state where i live. so, does that mean i can wager thru twinspires? or is it up to me, not twin spires, to police myself?

anyone know if you can get in trouble for wagering if it's not allowed by the state, since evidently it's not a federal ban?

Smooth Operator 05-06-2009 03:36 PM

VERY good news for the poker sites

Sightseek 05-06-2009 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
when i attempted to open an acct on tvg, it said arkansas wasn't allowed.
i opened a twin spires acct for the video, it didn't say a word about the state where i live. so, does that mean i can wager thru twinspires? or is it up to me, not twin spires, to police myself?

anyone know if you can get in trouble for wagering if it's not allowed by the state, since evidently it's not a federal ban?

Completely depends on the state you are in and the service you use. When I lived in NY, I couldn't open a tvg account either but had twinspires, nyra and capital otb. Now that I live in Virginia I can use my nyra account, but only over the phone, not online.

Coach Pants 05-06-2009 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
If it does I actually might start betting again,

I assume Pinnacle opens back up to the US customers?

I assume not. It appears to me that CDI, MAGNA, YouBet and BetFair, Indians and Vegas casinos will get first dibs.

pgardn 05-06-2009 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
when i attempted to open an acct on tvg, it said arkansas wasn't allowed.
i opened a twin spires acct for the video, it didn't say a word about the state where i live. so, does that mean i can wager thru twinspires? or is it up to me, not twin spires, to police myself?

anyone know if you can get in trouble for wagering if it's not allowed by the state, since evidently it's not a federal ban?

You can in Texas.
But they usually go after big fish,
not that you are a minnow. But sometimes
the big fish contain lists that have little fish.
My cousin got a bit of a scare. But the list
that was published in the paper did not contain
his name. And the people that did have their name
on the list did not get prosecuted. Only the operator
that got the transactions to go through this state
got prosecuted.

10 pnt move up 05-06-2009 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I assume not. It appears to me that CDI, MAGNA, YouBet and BetFair, Indians and Vegas casinos will get first dibs.

I can only go from prior experience but pre-2006 I could be anywhere I wanted, in any country despite being from an anti-gambling state, should a US law be passed would it trump the state laws? Would it allow me to open up with offshore books that are not pari mutual?

The article is obviously very brief with any details at this point.

Coach Pants 05-06-2009 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
I can only go from prior experience but pre-2006 I could be anywhere I wanted, in any country despite being from an anti-gambling state, should a US law be passed would it trump the state laws? Would it allow me to open up with offshore books that are not pari mutual?

The article is obviously very brief with any details at this point.

From the article...

Quote:

The concept of Frank’s bill, called the Internet Gambling Regulation Consumer Protection & Enforcement Act, is to regulate, not ban, online wagering, and derive revenue from it. The bill would give the Treasury Department power to regulate and license Internet betting providers.
They will have to bring briefcases full of cash to Barney's favorite meeting place in order to get a license.

tiggerv 05-06-2009 04:18 PM

Harrah's has been planning for this and started an online division awhile ago. I assume other big players like MGM/Mirage and Foxwoods are already working on something too. I don't think this would open up offshores again but instead we would get a number of new US based sites.

Antitrust32 05-06-2009 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
From the article...



They will have to bring briefcases full of cash to Barney's favorite meeting place in order to get a license.


A roman bath house!??!


Who would have thought Barney Frank would be good for something!!??!!

tector 05-06-2009 04:36 PM

Frank has been trending libertarian on social issues (not surprising, given his status)--he recently came out in favor of legalizing pot as well, and I believe he introduced a bill to that end as well.

However, I suspect the chronic Jesusheads in the GOP will find enough paternalistic do-gooder liberals to form a coalition to block this.

I love the bizarre alliances we get on some of these issues--like the anti-pornsters are mostly Bible thumpers, but you get some militant manhating feminazis along for the ride, too.

What a country, as Yakov Smirnoff used to say (maybe he still does).

10 pnt move up 05-06-2009 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tector
Frank has been trending libertarian on social issues (not surprising, given his status)--he recently came out in favor of legalizing pot as well, and I believe he introduced a bill to that end as well.

However, I suspect the chronic Jesusheads in the GOP will find enough paternalistic do-gooder liberals to form a coalition to block this.

I love the bizarre alliances we get on some of these issues--like the anti-pornsters are mostly Bible thumpers, but you get some militant manhating feminazis along for the ride, too.

What a country, as Yakov Smirnoff used to say (maybe he still does).

there is no real way anything can be blocked right now, the only way is really if back room dealings kept it from getting out of committee.

Danzig 05-06-2009 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Completely depends on the state you are in and the service you use. When I lived in NY, I couldn't open a tvg account either but had twinspires, nyra and capital otb. Now that I live in Virginia I can use my nyra account, but only over the phone, not online.


ok, thanks!

The Indomitable DrugS 05-06-2009 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tector
like the anti-pornsters are mostly Bible thumpers, but you get some militant manhating feminazis along for the ride, too.

Like that enraged German sounding chick that screams stuff at me everytime I would restart my computer?

Indian Charlie 05-06-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Like that enraged German sounding chick that screams stuff at me everytime I would restart my computer?

Sigh. Is she back again?

You never learn.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-06-2009 06:17 PM

I think I have her in quarantine right now.

One of these nights if I get real drunk I might let her out.

Rudeboyelvis 05-06-2009 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tector
Frank has been trending libertarian on social issues (not surprising, given his status)--he recently came out in favor of legalizing pot as well, and I believe he introduced a bill to that end as well.

However, I suspect the chronic Jesusheads in the GOP will find enough paternalistic do-gooder liberals to form a coalition to block this.

I love the bizarre alliances we get on some of these issues--like the anti-pornsters are mostly Bible thumpers, but you get some militant manhating feminazis along for the ride, too.

What a country, as Yakov Smirnoff used to say (maybe he still does).

When slots were on the ballot for Tampa, you had the Baptists in bed with the Seminoles, and PETA fellating both of 'em.... Strange bedfellows indeed.

hockey2315 05-06-2009 06:18 PM

The poker economy is in dire need of an influx of dead $. . .


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