Current Derby Odds
 

1 = 38
2 = 26
3 = 34
4 = 48
5 = 11
6 = 4
7 = 14
8 = 53
9 = 60
10 = 34
11 = 8
12 = 8
13 = 5
14 = 76
15 = 8
16 = 8
17 = 39
18 = 54
19 = 26
20 = 43

MORNING LINES:

1 West Side Bernie (Kelly Breen/Stewart Elliott) 30-1
2 Musket Man (Derek Ryan/Eibar Coa) 20-1
3 Mr. Hot Stuff (Eoin Harty/John Velazquez) 30-1
4 Advice (Todd Pletcher/Rene Douglas) 30-1
5 Hold Me Back (Bill Mott/Kent Desormeaux) 15-1
6 Friesan Fire (Larry Jones/Gabriel Saez) 5-1
7 Papa Clem (Gary Stute/Rafael Bejarano) 20-1
8 Mine That Bird (Bennie Woolley/Calvin Borel) 50-1
9 Join in the Dance (Todd Pletcher/Chris DeCarlo) 50-1
10 Regal Ransom (Saeed bin Suroor/Alan Garcia) 30-1
11 Chocolate Candy (Jerry Hollendorfer/Mike Smith) 20-1
12 General Quarters (Tom McCarthy/Julien Leparoux) 20-1
13 I Want Revenge (Jeff Mullins/Joe Talamo) 3-1
14 Atomic Rain (Kelly Breen/Joe Bravo) 50-1
15 Dunkirk (Todd Pletcher/Edgar Prado) 4-1
16 Pioneerof the Nile (Bob Baffert/Garrett Gomez) 4-1
17 Summer Bird (Tim Ice/Chris Rosier) 50-1
18 Nowhere to Hide (Nick Zito/Shaun Bridgmohan) 50-1
19 Desert Party (Saeed bin Suroor/Ramon Dominguez) 15-1
20 Flying Private (D. Wayne Lukas/Robby Albarado) 50-1

I am very surprised at some of the odds. I did figure Choc Candy would be the "wise guy " horse. Very surprised with GQ and HMB

Summer Bird getting some play

Desert Party and Musket Man down to 26/1. Me LIKE

I was just going to post if any one could provide the "early" odds for the derby wagering.

Kind of bummed that Fresian Fire is the favorite, I was hoping to get upwards of 6 - 1 on him.

I sure it will change a lot over the next 28 or so hours.

IWR will still be the favorite as soon as the money starts rolling in

The two Godolphin runners are worth a wager at this price. POTN also is at a high price. Remains to be seen if they stay that way.

FYI - General Quarters is a polyrat and 8-1 is a complete joke, the horse should be like 50-1

You shouldn't be surprised. The odds this early have very little meaning. There's almost no chance that IWR will go at 5-1 and Dunkirk at 8-1.

The closing tote odds will be much closer to the current best futures than to the miniscule amount of early betting. Here were the best futures as of a few hours ago:

W.Side Bernie 45-1
Musket Man 25-1
Mr Hot Stuff 35-1
Advice 35-1
Hold Me Back 25-1
Friesan Fire 5-1
Papa Clem 18-1
Mine That Bird 99-1
Join in the Dance 99-1
Regal Ransom 17-1
Choc Candy 18-1
Gen Quarters 25-1
I Want Revenge 3-1
Atomic Rain 90-1
Dunkirk 9-2
POTN 5-1
SummerBird 45-1
NowhereHide 99-1
Desert Party 16-1
Fly Private 90-1

(I've adjusted them to a 16% takeout.)

--Dunbar

Just posted on TVG......

Friesian Fire - 9/2
General Quarters - 5/1 (!?!)
I Want Revenge - 6/1
Dunkirk - 8/1
Chocolate Candy - 9/1
Pioneerof The Nile - 10/1

If I get 6-1 on IWR...the ATM at KY Downs will be empty after I get done.:$: :$:

I really doubt that you'll get that on him.

Maybe the public still doesnt realize the Bluegrass is a joke ever since they put in polycrap

I doubt it.....but....I didnt think I would have gotten it on Barbaro either.

I wasn't aware Tampa was a Poly surface. That's where his top Beyer was run.

Sandthetic

The Oaks/Derby willpays more accurately represent the Derby betting.

I believe the early odds are via local wagering only and the Blue Grass winner and when Pat Day was riding any horse he was on are always bet.

as it has been the last several years, yesterday's odds are not too far off of today's current odds

1 =30
2 =19
3 = 25
4 =45
5 =12
6 =7/2
7 =13
8 = 45
9 = 45
10 = 22
11= 9
12 = 9
13 = XXX
14 =50
15 = 6
16 = 6
17 = 40
18 = 40
19 =15
20 =40

Choc Candy, and GQ holding sway at 9:1 each, with Dunkirk and POTN lowered just a bit...Hold Me Back same as yesterday

What was that JJP??? How much money did you lose on this rat

You were right. The early odds were pretty good estimators of the final odds. I especially didn't expect GQ to stay low. And while Dunkirk's odds dropped to 5.2-1 from the early 8-1, some of that was due to IWR's scratch.

--Dunbar