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dellinger63 04-24-2009 08:07 AM

Being Green
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/track/rss/blo...tsheet_4962384

Guy has a hell of a carbon footprint. He's setting the bar pretty high as most don't have access to a private 747. Unfair to the poor. We can only do our best to try and achieve a fraction of his numbers.

joeydb 04-24-2009 12:41 PM

Your "Carbon Footprint" is also your Freedom Footprint. You can't make one smaller without the other.

Keep it nice and big. Feed CO2 to as many plants as you can. They in turn will give us more oxygen -- everybody wins. God is quite the Engineer.

SOREHOOF 04-24-2009 06:12 PM

What a scam. Global Warming Hysteria is a state sponsored religion. In direct violation of the 1st amendment.

dellinger63 04-25-2009 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
How should the President travel? Southwest?


Did he have to travel? Was there some ugrency in getting him to Iowa? This was just one, big, expensive photo op. And it was stupid to do in the name of being green. As Brian would say, text book hypocrisy.

The Indomitable DrugS 04-25-2009 10:23 AM

He didn't take enough vacation days ... that was the problem.

GBBob 04-25-2009 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63
Did he have to travel? Was there some ugrency in getting him to Iowa? This was just one, big, expensive photo op. And it was stupid to do in the name of being green. As Brian would say, text book hypocrisy.

Isn't that what President's do? Push an agenda and visit towns that are hard hit?
http://www.time.com/time/politics/ar...893033,00.html

TheSpyder 04-25-2009 10:29 AM

I fart quite a bit...what should I do?

dellinger63 04-25-2009 10:33 AM

I know he needs to travel and when he does needs AF1 and all its security etc. The problem with this trip was its purpose was to promote Green Energy and Obama burned 9,000 gallons to get there. Not the best PR move IMO. Wonder how many windy days it will take to recoup all the 'carbon credits' (LOL) burned in one trip?

And you are right about Bush but considering how bad the left felt he f'd things up while at the office were not those vacation days respites from all that was W?

brianwspencer 04-26-2009 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63
Did he have to travel? Was there some ugrency in getting him to Iowa? This was just one, big, expensive photo op. And it was stupid to do in the name of being green. As Brian would say, text book hypocrisy.

You can bash Gore all you want for his insistence that we all be green while creating a large carbon footprint, and though I completely believe his cause is noble, I wouldn't waste breath trying to disagree with you on it.

But I can't quite sign on board with the idea that it's "textbook hypocrisy" for a President of the United States to travel like....the President of the United States, no matter what he is going to be talking about. Unless all business for his term will be conducted directly out of the White House with no travel...it's not really realistic to expect the President of the entire United States to not be out travelling the entire United States.

Though as others have said, expecting the President of the United States to show up for work? That's reasonable (though while typing...not quite sure how we ended up there in this thread).

dellinger63 04-26-2009 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianwspencer
You can bash Gore all you want for his insistence that we all be green while creating a large carbon footprint, and though I completely believe his cause is noble, I wouldn't waste breath trying to disagree with you on it.

But I can't quite sign on board with the idea that it's "textbook hypocrisy" for a President of the United States to travel like....the President of the United States, no matter what he is going to be talking about. Unless all business for his term will be conducted directly out of the White House with no travel...it's not really realistic to expect the President of the entire United States to not be out travelling the entire United States.

Though as others have said, expecting the President of the United States to show up for work? That's reasonable (though while typing...not quite sure how we ended up there in this thread).

It has nothing to do with the trip, the hypocrisy lies in the purpose of the trip. I know the President must travel but he doesn't have to go joy riding especially when trying to preach Green.

Al Gore is just a buffoon who's essence is hypocrisy and lies. But I feel a little sorry for him as a child must 'make believe' if he/she is raised in a hotel. At least we know he's generous with charity. LOL

brianwspencer 04-26-2009 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63
It has nothing to do with the trip, the hypocrisy lies in the purpose of the trip. I know the President must travel but he doesn't have to go joy riding especially when trying to preach Green.

Al Gore is just a buffoon who's essence is hypocrisy and lies. But I feel a little sorry for him as a child must 'make believe' if he/she is raised in a hotel. At least we know he's generous with charity. LOL

He went to an energy specific locale.

It's like some jerk who has ruined an economy and cost millions of jobs going to give a speech on jobs and the economy in Detroit in front of a bunch of people who have lost their jobs thanks to him and his buddies.

Just saying...it's how things work, and it's how things have always worked. Wouldn't we be bordering on speaking of hypocrisy if we, say, got into a coversation about how perfectly comparable actions by other presidents didn't bother you one iota until just about exactly 100 days ago? Just saying....let's be careful abou the fights we're picking.

It's not hypocrisy so to speak. If you want to change the entire system of the Presidency, that's a good starting point to an intellectually honest conversation we could have, and I'm sure Obama will anxiously await your plans for overhaul.

I like you Dell, so you'd be really well-served to save your outrage for when it matters. You're turning into a total boy who cried wolf type. By the time anything that's actually important comes around, nobody will care because they're so used to your fake outrage over airplanes and the like.

dellinger63 04-26-2009 10:35 AM

I'm not trying to change opinions just venting. Your Bush comparison would have been better if you talked about him putting on a flight jacket and heading for the nearest air craft carrier in the Gulf to 'lend his support' to the troops.

dellinger63 04-26-2009 06:07 PM

At least he's in with royal company

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ivate-jet.html

dellinger63 04-28-2009 12:20 PM

Arrogance or Ignorance?





Someone tell this fool the goal is to lesson the carbon footprint. Far over his skis on this one. Burn more fuel for a photo op? LMAO

Antitrust32 04-28-2009 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63
Arrogance or Ignorance?





Someone tell this fool the goal is to lesson the carbon footprint. Far over his skis on this one. Burn more fuel for a photo op? LMAO


I could care LESS about the fuel burned on that but that was a cruel thing to do to New Yorkers.... absolutely crazy and ignorant.

I dont blame Obama because he didnt know about it... but the person who signed off on it should lose their job no if ands or buts.

dellinger63 04-28-2009 12:35 PM

If Katrina was Bush's fault this surely is Obama's. Who is guiding this guy, his daughters? The fuel doesn't particularily bother me but the 'do as I say not as I do' BS surely does.

Antitrust32 04-28-2009 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63
If Katrina was Bush's fault this surely is Obama's. Who is guiding this guy, his daughters? The fuel doesn't particularily bother me but the 'do as I say not as I do' BS surely does.


While I think the guy who authorized this photo op should lose his job.

This situation and Katrina are not comparable. not even a little bit like to use in an analogy.


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