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Indian Charlie 04-05-2009 04:39 PM

Interesting run from Affirmatif
 
I guess that's why you don't bet 1/5 shots in their second lifetime start.

Who was that winner, Golden Mexico? I don't have the pps for today there and was wondering if that horse had shown anything before. I would expect Affirmatif to turn the tables on that horse in the near future.

SOREHOOF 04-05-2009 04:46 PM

Clement and Garcia on the grass at 12:1 is ALWAYS worth a shot. 1 race 1win going a mile in Italy.

wac 04-05-2009 04:49 PM

I dont have the pps here either but what is Clement 1st time in NA like friggin 35% wins?? horse went off at like 12-1. Wow

SOREHOOF 04-05-2009 04:51 PM

[/url]http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdfs/toddpletcher_143681.pdf

SOREHOOF 04-05-2009 04:55 PM

That doesn't come up when I click on it. Not really good with the puter.

Indian Charlie 04-05-2009 04:56 PM

He lost to a wop horse?

He's done.

SOREHOOF 04-05-2009 04:58 PM

Irish PLEASE!

SOREHOOF 04-05-2009 04:59 PM

I can't seem to make the PP come up as a link.

eajinabi 04-05-2009 06:31 PM

If you thought the horse that won impresively on thier FTS would win this race then you were correct.

The Indomitable DrugS 04-05-2009 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
He lost to a wop horse?

He's done.

With lowered expectations so often comes lowered results.

However, there is never any shame in losing to a wop.

Anyone who doesn't find the Wop-talians to be the all-time superior race has obviously never eaten a calzone before.

hoovesupsideyourhead 04-05-2009 07:03 PM

funny the way the 5/7 went out guns blazing..the pace gave the race away
and garcia in the race before using up the juddmont in the same way..

HaloWishingwell 04-05-2009 07:08 PM

Looks like a Team Valor purchase

VOL JACK 04-05-2009 07:49 PM

I needed the 1-5 affirmatif for a small score in p4s and DD's.
He couldn't carry my fat ass saying he might be the next big thing and 1-5.

It was my best Mush job to date.

rgustafson 04-05-2009 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
I guess that's why you don't bet 1/5 shots in their second lifetime start.

Who was that winner, Golden Mexico? I don't have the pps for today there and was wondering if that horse had shown anything before. I would expect Affirmatif to turn the tables on that horse in the near future.

The pps wouldn't have helped you much at all. Both horses raced once and won there maiden races going a mile on the turf. Affirmatif in 1:34 1/5 and Golden Mexico in 1:42 2/5. Golden Mexico did beat a 15 horse field in Italy which more than likely was a better field of grass runners than Affirmatiff faced, but really you would have gotten the important information just from the program which would have told you the owners, trainer, and jockey unless of course you feel these people involved have no idea what they are doing. As you said in your post, " I guess that's why you don't bet 1/5 shots in their second lifetime start" especially when an "unknown" horse with those connections went off at 12-1.

Bobby Fischer 04-05-2009 08:30 PM

He was obviously the main rival, but there was nothing to say that Affirmatif was weak. Golden Mexico should have been the clear second choice. The only other slightly interesting horse was the larry jones horse, just because you have to respect him as a trainer. Weak shug horse, weak speed horse Kent D was on... the Attfield foreign horse was so cheap...

They were looking to prep this Golden Mexico horse for some stakes

not the first horse irwin got from his Italian connections.

should have been around 9-2 or 5-1 in this field (with Affirmatif at around even money).

hockey2315 04-06-2009 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rgustafson
The pps wouldn't have helped you much at all. Both horses raced once and won there maiden races going a mile on the turf. Affirmatif in 1:34 1/5 and Golden Mexico in 1:42 2/5. Golden Mexico did beat a 15 horse field in Italy which more than likely was a better field of grass runners than Affirmatiff faced, but really you would have gotten the important information just from the program which would have told you the owners, trainer, and jockey unless of course you feel these people involved have no idea what they are doing. As you said in your post, " I guess that's why you don't bet 1/5 shots in their second lifetime start" especially when an "unknown" horse with those connections went off at 12-1.

Really?


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