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ArlJim78 03-07-2009 01:10 PM

Party on dude
 
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=90945

not concerned with the market, the country slipping into a depression, wagging his finger at wall street types for their excesses, but none of that stops our great savior from living it up at the White House.

lets recap how great this guy is at lavishly blowing the money of others;
1) campaign raises nearly a billion dollars, and spends it.

2) accepts nomination in Denver in a football stadium with a modest 75,000 in attendance and a Hollywood style production including the now-infamous greek columns.

3) Has gigantic election night rally in Chicago, another elaborate production

4) Has largest most expensive innaugaration in history by far.

now it comes out that he and Michelle are having party after party at the White House, and it sounds like they spare no expense either. well that is until it comes to giving gifts to the leader of our closest ally.:rolleyes:

what a man of the people.

"An organization that serves as a watchdog on the U.S. government for American taxpayers has launched a campaign to uncover exactly how much tax money is being spent on parties at the Obama White House. "

"Klayman said the reports of the partying at the White House, "with the likes of Steve Wonder and other high priced entertainment stars," will be the focus of document requests being submitted to the General Services Administration. The requests will seek to determine how much taxpayer money is being used. "

"Barack and Michelle Obama have been throwing taxpayer funded parties nearly every night with their 'friends' and supporters, with Michelle Obama even exhorting them not to 'break' White House property," Klayman's announcement said.

"This party atmosphere sends the wrong message to the American people. As the Obama-Clinton crowd party on, the American people are suffering greatly," Klayman said.


Insiders said in the report that the Obama social schedule is busier than any other previous occupants of the White House.

"We haven't seen this kind of entertaining in a really long time," Dee Dee Myers, former White House press secretary to Bill Clinton, said in the report

Riot 03-07-2009 05:35 PM

Wow. The details of that article say six parties (including the Super Bowl party, the inaugaration night party for the kids) since they were elected.

Yeah. Four parties over two months. That's some serious "Party after party" action.

Considering the George Bush's never went out - virtually never - yeah, I'd expect the White House is indeed hopping by comparison :D

wiphan 03-07-2009 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Wow. The details of that article say six parties (including the Super Bowl party, the inaugaration night party for the kids) since they were elected.

Yeah. Four parties over two months. That's some serious "Party after party" action.

Considering the George Bush's never went out - virtually never - yeah, I'd expect the White House is indeed hopping by comparison :D


King Obama has been quick to judge how companies spend their own $, but refuses to hold himself accountable for his spending. In fact shouldn't we question government more than any one since that is our tax dollars he is spending. He states no pork in the stimulus,etc and he is going thru the budget line by line to make sure we are not wasting money. Now all politicians lie, but he is getting down right ridiculous. Wednesday night parties have been a regular occurance at the whitehouse. As the unemployment rate is above 8% and we are in a depression and more than half of the wealth in america has evaporated since he won the election should there really be any partying going on in the whitehouse? What is there to celebrate right now? The downfall of capitalism? Are you saying that it is ok to blow Millions on parties at the whitehouse, especially in times like these? He critized legimate profitable business for rewarding everyday employees who helped make their company profitable by making them cancel trips, etc.; but he can spend our money irresponsibly. Wouldn't that $ be spent better on something else? Also, it has been said in many articles that Obama is like a boy who got a new toy with Air Force 1. So much for reducing pollution and being for the environment...

ArlJim78 03-07-2009 05:57 PM

now they are blaming his snub of the Prime Minister on BO being overwhelmed and tired. he might want to back off on his party schedule until he gathers his strength.:rolleyes:

Riot 03-07-2009 10:16 PM

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King Obama has been quick to judge how companies spend their own $, but refuses to hold himself accountable for his spending.
OK, show me. Show me where he's refused to account for any of the money collected by his campaign?

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In fact shouldn't we question government more than any one since that is our tax dollars he is spending.
You are entitled to know where your tax dollars go. That article included alot of stuff that isn't your tax dollars, btw. Did you bother to notice that? That nearly all of what that article talked about has nothing to do with your tax dollars? What do you want "accounted for", particularly?

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Wednesday night parties have been a regular occurance at the whitehouse.
Really? Have a source for that?

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So much for reducing pollution and being for the environment...
So you didn't pay any attention to what he has done specifically for the environment and pollution within the past five days?

wiphan 03-07-2009 10:43 PM

OK, show me. Show me where he's refused to account for any of the money collected by his campaign?

Didn't say campaign dollars. How he spends campaign contributions is up to him and the democratic party. But what I don't get is how he is spending our tax money? Who do you think pays for these parties? Do you think he cuts a check out of his own pocket? Do you think a Wednesday night get together at the whitehouse for 180 including all the security etc, needed is a wise way to waste $ right now? While an uprecedented number of americans have homes in foreclosure and are lining up at the unemployment line our President is having a party on our dime.

You are entitled to know where your tax dollars go. That article included alot of stuff that isn't your tax dollars, btw. Did you bother to notice that? That nearly all of what that article talked about has nothing to do with your tax dollars? What do you want "accounted for", particularly?

How about wasteful spending on Lavish Whitehouse parties to start?


Really? Have a source for that?
Here is one that I found within seconds. I have heard this from numerous sources on the radio
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1



So you didn't pay any attention to what he has done specifically for the environment and pollution within the past five days?

I am sorry you are right here. He is totally for the environment. Sure he tossed some money into some governement programs and initiatives. Yeah he wants to pass cap and trade. It all makes sense.

Riot 03-07-2009 11:01 PM

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How about wasteful spending on Lavish Whitehouse parties to start?
Wow - to quote your "source" on that, we have three Wednesday receptions - ohmygawd, three! - such as, "... the foot-stomping sounds of Sweet Honey in the Rock, a female a cappella group, filled the East Room for a Black History Month program first lady Michelle Obama held for nearly 200 sixth- and seventh-graders from around the city."

Yeah. That's some hard wild partying and outrageous lavish spending.

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So you didn't pay any attention to what he has done specifically for the environment and pollution within the past five days?

I am sorry you are right here. He is totally for the environment. Sure he tossed some money into some governement programs and initiatives. Yeah he wants to pass cap and trade. It all makes sense.
No, that's not it.

Danzig 03-07-2009 11:40 PM

nothing like a non issue to sidetrack people from real problems-you know the treasury still is undermanned due to more folks pulling their names from consideration?
the #1 crisis right now is the banking industry-and our dept of the treasury is understaffed.

Cannon Shell 03-07-2009 11:42 PM

Cap and trade is a waste of time and it is bad economic policy at the absolute worst time. It is strictly pandering to the environmental lobby which unfortunately is growing. European countries that have followed the Kyoto treaty and have enlisted cap and trade have actually not decreased emissions but some are increasing faster than the US which did not participate.

Energy prices right now are low and emissions are decreasing as the economy slows. Enacting policy that increases energy costs for business is just another anti-business and anti-recovery policy passed by this administration. This is just another poorly timed liberal social issue that will ultimately increase costs for the consumer during the midst of a huge recession. And the irony of it all is that the poorest among us will be hurt the most. Of course most of those poor voters are too stupid to realize that environmental issues will cost them much more than the "rich, polluting companies" in the form of a regressive tax.

Cannon Shell 03-07-2009 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
nothing like a non issue to sidetrack people from real problems-you know the treasury still is undermanned due to more folks pulling their names from consideration?
the #1 crisis right now is the banking industry-and our dept of the treasury is understaffed.

Why would anyone with a clue want to work for a dept that no one seems to think can fix these issues with their current policies? Not to mention that being a punching bag in front of Congress during the vetting process doesnt look like much fun.

Danzig 03-07-2009 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Cap and trade is a waste of time and it is bad economic policy at the absolute worst time. It is strictly pandering to the environmental lobby which unfortunately is growing. European countries that have followed the Kyoto treaty and have enlisted cap and trade have actually not decreased emissions but some are increasing faster than the US which did not participate.

Energy prices right now are low and emissions are decreasing as the economy slows. Enacting policy that increases energy costs for business is just another anti-business and anti-recovery policy passed by this administration. This is just another poorly timed liberal social issue that will ultimately increase costs for the consumer during the midst of a huge recession. And the irony of it all is that the poorest among us will be hurt the most. Of course most of those poor voters are too stupid to realize that environmental issues will cost them much more than the "rich, polluting companies" in the form of a regressive tax.

the dems seem to be attempting to push thru every item on their agenda that they've ever wanted passed right now, while everyone is still dewey-eyed from the election, and while they have the ready excuse of 'everything we're doing is to help get us out of the mess we're in'... energy costs being down is one of the few blessings we have right now, and is something they should NOT be messing with. there's enough bad stuff going on- those attempting to find a new job are faced with lower wages (flooded labor market-when just a few years ago most companies couldn't find adequate staff), and with the credit crunch, people are getting assailed from all sides. but at least gas is cheaper-for now.

Danzig 03-07-2009 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Why would anyone with a clue want to work for a dept that no one seems to think can fix these issues with their current policies? Not to mention that being a punching bag in front of Congress during the vetting process doesnt look like much fun.

that's the thing-just when we need people in there to do what needs to be done, no one seems willing or able to take on the task. part of the problem filling positions is that obama has made the requirements very difficult to meet-good luck finding someone who didn't work for the banking industry in some capacity with the wherewithal to work in that field...

Cannon Shell 03-07-2009 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
the dems seem to be attempting to push thru every item on their agenda that they've ever wanted passed right now, while everyone is still dewey-eyed from the election, and while they have the ready excuse of 'everything we're doing is to help get us out of the mess we're in'... energy costs being down is one of the few blessings we have right now, and is something they should NOT be messing with. there's enough bad stuff going on- those attempting to find a new job are faced with lower wages (flooded labor market-when just a few years ago most companies couldn't find adequate staff), and with the credit crunch, people are getting assailed from all sides. but at least gas is cheaper-for now.

Yeah gas is cheaper and all of a sudden the Pols start floating out an idea about a mileage tax. And people complained about the Bush administrations intrusion on their 'rights'. 99.99% of people dont need to worry about the govt wiretapping their phones. 100% of auto owners will have govt intrusion in our lives daily if this idea ever picks up steam.

Cannon Shell 03-07-2009 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
that's the thing-just when we need people in there to do what needs to be done, no one seems willing or able to take on the task. part of the problem filling positions is that obama has made the requirements very difficult to meet-good luck finding someone who didn't work for the banking industry in some capacity with the wherewithal to work in that field...

Which is exactly my argument against the Federal govt being involved with horse racing regulation. Who exactly is going to fill the roles needed to successfully enact realistic and helpful regulation? The current 'leaders'?

Danzig 03-07-2009 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Yeah gas is cheaper and all of a sudden the Pols start floating out an idea about a mileage tax. And people complained about the Bush administrations intrusion on their 'rights'. 99.99% of people dont need to worry about the govt wiretapping their phones. 100% of auto owners will have govt intrusion in our lives daily if this idea ever picks up steam.


problem with the gas right now is lack of demand hits our highways-much lower tax money flowing into the treasury from gas taxes-so no money for highway spending- one of the items they want to spend money on in their 'stimulus' package. i'm not surprised that they're looking at alternatives to boost income, but i don't see any way that a mileage tax is going to fly.
all i can say is thank god for a company vehicle.

Danzig 03-07-2009 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Which is exactly my argument against the Federal govt being involved with horse racing regulation. Who exactly is going to fill the roles needed to successfully enact realistic and helpful regulation? The current 'leaders'?

lol
any time anyone says we need more federal involvement, i cringe. from what i've read over the years, the further you are from the seat of federal govt, the more corruption, anarchy, etc you have. probably explains why california is one of the worst states as far as medicare, medicaid fraud, etc. putting feds in charge of anything is like having inmates run an asylum.

as far as racing, they need standardized rules moreso than one governing body-and certainly not anything having to do with feds.

wiphan 03-08-2009 12:05 AM

There is one easy way to fix the banking problem. Fix the Mark to Market accounting regulations and almost 90% of the problems would be gone

Cannon Shell 03-08-2009 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wiphan
There is one easy way to fix the banking problem. Fix the Mark to Market accounting regulations and almost 90% of the problems would be gone

While I agree with mark to market it is a little late for that to be a solution. Let them fail and sell off the assets to the surviving banks at whatever they bring. Let the govt eat the bad assets no one will touch. Obviously this is a simplistic approach and there are a whole lot more factors but throwing money at them and AIG and GM is almost guaranteed to fail.


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