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the_fat_man 02-25-2009 05:12 PM

Typical Rosario Finish
 
I realize there was thread about this PUNK recently but having just watched today's 5th at SA, I can't help starting another one.

Can this MOFO ever finish?

Is there ever a time when he's going to be able to KEEP A HORSE STRAIGHT IN THE LANE?

Dixieland Pop WINS with a jock that is able to KEEP HER STRAIGHT. Rosario is the Channing Hill of the west. His horses ALWAYS seem to be swerving in and out in the lane. He can't outfinish anyone.

You bust a horse RIGHTY upon immediately entering the stretch and it's going to DUCK IN. Takes only a few times of seeing this on replays to GET IT. Why, then, do jocks like Rosario, who actually EXPERIENCE IT, not get it?

Get the douche a gym membership. Pump some ****in iron. It sucks riding like a bitch.

TitanSooner 02-25-2009 06:11 PM

he must be reading DerbyTrail between races.

the_fat_man 02-25-2009 06:44 PM

And Kayla Stra runs him down in the 8th.

Way to go, BUTCH, can't hold on, with an open length lead, against a woman.



And she looked good doing it.

TitanSooner 02-25-2009 06:49 PM

spoke too soon :D

Danzig 02-25-2009 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
And Kayla Stra runs him down in the 8th.

Way to go, BUTCH, can't hold on, with an open length lead, against a woman.



And she looked good doing it.

:rolleyes:

CSC 02-25-2009 07:13 PM

A peculiar ride in the 7th, I'm only going to mention it once here but there's a bet back in this one if anyone noticed.

the_fat_man 02-25-2009 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
A peculiar ride in the 7th, I'm only going to mention it once here but there's a bet back in this one if anyone noticed.

I notice you were silent after EVERYBODY's betback, Ventana, punked out when he was actually asked to run on the outside.:rolleyes: Damn, couldn't he get that inside trip again?

CSC 02-25-2009 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
I notice you were silent after EVERYBODY's betback, Ventana, punked out when he was actually asked to run on the outside.:rolleyes: Damn, couldn't he get that inside trip again?

You don't think he had a bad, no horrendous trip one race prior to the San Vicente? Maybe that race wasn't much considering Congor bay the winner finished second to last in the Vicente however considering Bejarano had him 5 wide on the backside and was pumping on him about 4 furlongs out, suggests to me he didn't run a yard that day.

the_fat_man 02-25-2009 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
You don't think he had a bad, no horrendous trip one race prior to the San Vicente? Maybe that race wasn't much considering Congor bay the winner finished second to last in the Vicente however considering Bejarano had him 5 wide on the backside and was pumping on him about 4 furlongs out, suggests to me he didn't run a yard that day.

It wasn't so much that he was checked but rather than he was also shuffled back that seemed to make his trip so bad. However, and this touches on a point that BTW and I disagree on, when he finally got clear inside late, he didn't do any running. Don't get me wrong, it was tempting to take him back next out, and I, luckily, was able to resist. The fact that he didn't run a lick when he actually had to run on the outside was an indication that he pretty much needs it all his own way.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-25-2009 09:34 PM

I think Chantal's secret riding idol might be Norberto Arroyo. That move she made in the stretch of the 6th today(where she pushed that horse half way across the track) is pretty typical of her reckless spoiled-child-like stuff. It's one thing to force yourself out, but she's not exactly professional in the way she acts out there. I have never seen a full episode of that jockey show, but I've seen some bits n' pieces. She says she's gunna usually get her way. Well, that's the way she rides, too (she's selfish n' doesn't seem very interested in others safety at all.) She didn't know if someone was beside Danny. WTF is she doing pushing a horse that far out of the way?

CSC 02-25-2009 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
It wasn't so much that he was checked but rather than he was also shuffled back that seemed to make his trip so bad. However, and this touches on a point that BTW and I disagree on, when he finally got clear inside late, he didn't do any running. Don't get me wrong, it was tempting to take him back next out, and I, luckily, was able to resist. The fact that he didn't run a lick when he actually had to run on the outside was an indication that he pretty much needs it all his own way.

I bet him back but I knew it was a bad price, in retrospect I probably wouldn't have if I didn't recall that race so vividly. I much prefer to play back horses with less obvious trouble, that's when I feel that you can gain an edge on the public, most handicappers I suspect don't bother looking at video being that it may be too time consuming, where I am guilty of that at times too. But if it isn't overly obvious and if legitimate excuses are not mentioned in the charts, then all the better for the person who puts in the work.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-25-2009 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
I bet him back but I knew it was a bad price, in retrospect I probably wouldn't have if I didn't recall that race so vividly. I much prefer to play back horses with less obvious trouble, that's when I feel that you can gain an edge on the public, most handicappers I suspect don't bother looking at video being that it may be too time consuming, where I am guilty of that at times too. But if it isn't overly obvious and if legitimate excuses are not mentioned in the charts, then all the better for the person who puts in the work.

They have to want to win though. That's highly questionable with this individual. This is like some sort of fk-up Foster Child.

v j stauffer 02-26-2009 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man
I realize there was thread about this PUNK recently but having just watched today's 5th at SA, I can't help starting another one.

Can this MOFO ever finish?

Is there ever a time when he's going to be able to KEEP A HORSE STRAIGHT IN THE LANE?

Dixieland Pop WINS with a jock that is able to KEEP HER STRAIGHT. Rosario is the Channing Hill of the west. His horses ALWAYS seem to be swerving in and out in the lane. He can't outfinish anyone.

You bust a horse RIGHTY upon immediately entering the stretch and it's going to DUCK IN. Takes only a few times of seeing this on replays to GET IT. Why, then, do jocks like Rosario, who actually EXPERIENCE IT, not get it?

Get the douche a gym membership. Pump some ****in iron. It sucks riding like a bitch.

He's currently 5th in the nation in purse earnings. How bad can he be?

Send cash to me at Hollywood Park. I'll see that he gets it for a gym membership.

the_fat_man 02-26-2009 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
I think Chantal's secret riding idol might be Norberto Arroyo. That move she made in the stretch of the 6th today(where she pushed that horse half way across the track) is pretty typical of her reckless spoiled-child-like stuff. It's one thing to force yourself out, but she's not exactly professional in the way she acts out there. I have never seen a full episode of that jockey show, but I've seen some bits n' pieces. She says she's gunna usually get her way. Well, that's the way she rides, too (she's selfish n' doesn't seem very interested in others safety at all.) She didn't know if someone was beside Danny. WTF is she doing pushing a horse that far out of the way?

I've been bitching about her for a while now. The stewards let her HERD at will.
When on the lead, she always INTENTIONALLY COMES OUT entering the stretch. What the stewards don't get is that, sooner or later, either she or some other jock will go down and someone will get killed.

And, what sucks is that she's actually a very good on-the-lead jock and doesn't need to resort to the PUNK ****.

the_fat_man 02-26-2009 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
He's currently 5th in the nation in purse earnings. How bad can he be?

Send cash to me at Hollywood Park. I'll see that he gets it for a gym membership.

Your boy gets run down by Stra, Vic. And she looks better in the drive than he does. Check to see that he's still got nuts after that one.

It's not about winning on the CLEARLY best horse but not losing on a horse that should win. Somehow, this escapes the connections.

CSC 02-26-2009 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
They have to want to win though. That's highly questionable with this individual. This is like some sort of fk-up Foster Child.

You may be right, horseplayers are at times married to wrong horses. Call it infactuation, it works both ways, burned on one -payoff on another. I mentioned on a play as you go thread weeks ago I was interested in the Couton/Powell horse that won yesterday at 8-1 on the 6.5 downhill one race back I thought he was too passively ridden by Couton that day, but finished strong in that race, anyway I though he was worth a try again yesterday, this could have been a case of chasing a horse, but as we know sometimes it does work and sometimes it doesn't. Regardless I like how Couton finishes on horses if he could just get more position early on, who knows maybe he is finally learning that he is no longer riding in Europe.

Coach Pants 02-26-2009 09:24 AM

You better lock this thread, Steve. We wouldn't want heavy lunch to get upset and threaten to whoop my ass.

gales0678 02-26-2009 09:41 AM

didn't she cause a bad spill in ny once?

The Indomitable DrugS 02-26-2009 09:44 AM

Are you guys just trying to make Vic feel good about how he's doing such an awesome job of hustling book with such a mediocre rider?

I actually think Rosario rides the synthetic about as good as anyone I've seen out there. Probably better than anyone except Gomez and maybe Bejarano.

He clearly might not be as strong as an Espinoza or Gomez .. but he's going to be a top rider out there for a long time. He's seriously good product for an agent.

CSC 02-26-2009 11:08 AM

If you could combine the riding styles of J. Rosario and T. Baze into one person, you'd have one heckuva Jockey. Their strengths would offset their weaknesses and vice versa.


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