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sdjcom 02-20-2009 05:49 PM

Penn National 02-20
 
$1 tri pw minus -1519.79 (2009)

3) 10,11/16/16910,11 bet $12 lost

sdjcom 02-20-2009 06:46 PM

PN r5
 
$1 tri -pw



5) 34/58/13458 bet $12 lost

sdjcom 02-20-2009 07:08 PM

PN r7
 
$1 tri pw


7) 79/48/4789,10 bet $12 lost





lost 36 minus -1555.79 (2009)

dean smith 02-20-2009 07:17 PM

Sdjcom... You couldn't be more due. There is something about Race 5 and you that I cannot shake, however. I feel that this is your race. In my mind the two of us cashing this $12 trifecta play together is a foregone conclusion.

I'm all in. Let's do this!

Suffolk Shippers 02-20-2009 07:17 PM

I once played Penn National on a random Thursday night at Mohegan Sun half in the bag last summer. Tonight, I mark the second time I throw my hat in the fray at Grantville, PA's oval.

I'm left alone to myself tonight w/ no friends and no girlfriend, and no Bruins, so here we go.

$5 Late P4

R6: 6,8
R7: 4,6,7,9,10
R8: 1,3,4,5,7
R9: 5

$250

dean smith 02-20-2009 07:21 PM

Race 5: 3-5-4

Why the 3 is 12/1 right now is something I can't understand.

dean smith 02-20-2009 07:23 PM

Did you see that?! It should've been the 3! The Penn National Roughriders screwed us!

sdjcom 02-20-2009 07:28 PM

just be positive and patience you'll score big soon

sdjcom 02-20-2009 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suffolk Shippers
I once played Penn National on a random Thursday night at Mohegan Sun half in the bag last summer. Tonight, I mark the second time I throw my hat in the fray at Grantville, PA's oval.

I'm left alone to myself tonight w/ no friends and no girlfriend, and no Bruins, so here we go.

$5 Late P4

R6: 6,8
R7: 4,6,7,9,10
R8: 1,3,4,5,7
R9: 5

$250

i enjoy Pn, Mnr, and Pha pk i'm beginning to spent more time with these tracks, and i believe in the future they will be around and still have full fields, horses seem to be a little better than in past years.

dean smith 02-20-2009 07:32 PM

I'm always trying to learn more about this sport, so does anyone out there know what constitutes a foul or brings up an inquiry? It seemed to me that the 3 had the inside lane into the stretch, and the 5 and 1 both jerked to the left into his path and caused him to slam on the brakes, so to speak.

Is that analysis accurate, or was it just a case of a jockey missing a spot and driving his horse up another horse's ass?

sdjcom 02-20-2009 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dean smith
Sdjcom... You couldn't be more due. There is something about Race 5 and you that I cannot shake, however. I feel that this is your race. In my mind the two of us cashing this $12 trifecta play together is a foregone conclusion.

I'm all in. Let's do this!

i get those feelings to and am usually wrong so you never know which race you might hit, i just play and know i'll soon say that's meeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dean smith 02-20-2009 07:34 PM

In short, what is the fine line between good riding and a foul when veering into another's path?

sdjcom 02-20-2009 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dean smith
I'm always trying to learn more about this sport, so does anyone out there know what constitutes a foul or brings up an inquiry? It seemed to me that the 3 had the inside lane into the stretch, and the 5 and 1 both jerked to the left into his path and caused him to slam on the brakes, so to speak.

Is that analysis accurate, or was it just a case of a jockey missing a spot and driving his horse up another horse's ass?

no dean you and i just picked the wrong horse lol... we'll try the 7th

Suffolk Shippers 02-20-2009 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdjcom
i enjoy Pn, Mnr, and Pha pk i'm beginning to spent more time with these tracks, and i believe in the future they will be around and still have full fields, horses seem to be a little better than in past years.

I can see why you'd enjoy these tracks, full fields, difficult to cap for sure, prices probably hit the board more often than not. I'm gonna do some tracking and jump in here and there. It's tough to find a half decent wager after the west coast tracks are done at 630/7pm ET.

Suffolk Shippers 02-20-2009 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dean smith
In short, what is the fine line between good riding and a foul when veering into another's path?

You're entering a dark realm, amigo. The stewards that run these tracks have ultimately no rhyme or reason as to
what constitutes a foul and what does not. If I wasn't losing money, I'd find it comical.

On a whole, I think the slack is one "path", so say coming down the stretch, you're on the rail, that's the one path. If you drifted out to the "two path" w/out seriously impeding another horse (ie making it pull up, check heels, etc) you usually get by. Other factors, is the horse you impede/bump running huge or fading? Are they themselves drifting out, and not because you caused them to do so, and if they aren't drifting, did they drift when you lugged in?

In short, it's a f*cking mess. I didn't see the incident in the 5th, I'm gonna see if I can catch the replay.

sdjcom 02-20-2009 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suffolk Shippers
I can see why you'd enjoy these tracks, full fields, difficult to cap for sure, prices probably hit the board more often than not. I'm gonna do some tracking and jump in here and there. It's tough to find a half decent wager after the west coast tracks are done at 630/7pm ET.

i know what you are saying, but the tracks like Sa i like but hard to get 2-3 races on a card for me because i don't like turf races maidens, and a lot of short field races, but some days that have a nice card. what determines
which tracks i play that day is the entries i look at before pulling up PP's. that way i'm not wasting time on a track if i like only 1-2 races with six horses
in them hard to make a big hit, which i haven't had lately. the conditions and type makes up my mine before starting on handicapping

Suffolk Shippers 02-20-2009 07:50 PM

Well that blows, unless the P4 pays 3 of 4...I'm out already! But looking through old results that happens some times at PEN, so I'll stick with it.

dagolfer33 02-20-2009 07:51 PM

I hope you didnt do it Suffolk.

dean smith 02-20-2009 07:52 PM

I play these tracks because they are usually the only ones I can play. It's the same bitch I always have: If you work a regular 9 to 5, the only time you can enjoy racing of the highest quality is on the weekends, and that is only if you can somehow convince the wife and kids to leave you alone for 4 hours. Good luck with that. If it weren't for the Mountaineers and Penns of the world, there is no way I could get into racing. And there have to be millions out there just like me.

dean smith 02-20-2009 07:54 PM

Hey, I just graduated Sunshine Park and am now a Suffolk Downser. I always root for the success of that track since I read TD Thornton's book a year ago.


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