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gales0678 02-13-2009 07:42 AM

Michelle Wie
 
Nice start to the year kid - 66 - in the 1st round in Hawaii

Stay focused play your game and go to the whip on saturday and pull away just like a tiger!

-4 on the par 5's , just like a tiger!

Antitrust32 02-13-2009 08:18 AM

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

the first thing that comes to my mind when I think of Wie is that she is just like Tiger :zz:

the_fat_man 02-13-2009 08:30 AM

is this SCUNT still news? wtf?

oh wait: this is the place where we have daily love fests for P Valenzuela and numerous horses.

what would our lives be without our 'heroes'

gales0678 02-13-2009 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

the first thing that comes to my mind when I think of Wie is that she is just like Tiger :zz:


she hits the ball by me Lori , if she gets the putter working and sharpens up the shortgame she will kill them

par 5's are par 4's for her every week , just like young tiger

Antitrust32 02-13-2009 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
she hits the ball by me Lori , if she gets the putter working and sharpens up the shortgame she will kill them

par 5's are par 4's for her every week , just like young tiger


What Tiger has that seperates him from everyone else on the tour is his mental toughness. Young Tiger had the same head he has now. Thats why he won 3 US Junior Amatuers and 3 US Amatuers (sp?) when he was young.

Wie doesnt have that at all. I'd take someone who hits it 240 (Anneka) and has that toughness over someone who hits it 310 and cant win a darn thing ANYDAY.

It doesnt matter what Wie can do on par 5's if she chokes when in position to win. Sorry Marty, she aint anything like Tiger!

gales0678 02-13-2009 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
What Tiger has that seperates him from everyone else on the tour is his mental toughness. Young Tiger had the same head he has now. Thats why he won 3 US Junior Amatuers and 3 US Amatuers (sp?) when he was young.

Wie doesnt have that at all. I'd take someone who hits it 240 (Anneka) and has that toughness over someone who hits it 310 and cant win a darn thing ANYDAY.

It doesnt matter what Wie can do on par 5's if she chokes when in position to win. Sorry Marty, she aint anything like Tiger!


she had 3 top 5 finishes in majors in '06 , if she keeps here head screwed on , stays away from the colts there is no telling how much she could win

every weeek she will be playing a par 68 course , that's almost 16 strokes over 4 days she has to play with over the field

will see this year what happens

timmgirvan 02-13-2009 10:46 AM

If she stays away from her father, she might stay focused enough to grow into stardom,but that's a big if....

GPK 02-13-2009 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
she had 3 top 5 finishes in majors in '06 , if she keeps here head screwed on , stays away from the colts there is no telling how much she could win

every weeek she will be playing a par 68 course , that's almost 16 strokes over 4 days she has to play with over the field

will see this year what happens

It aint the colts she needs to stay away from, its her parents. I used to root for her, but now I find myself not really caring if she does well or not.

gales0678 02-13-2009 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK
It aint the colts she needs to stay away from, its her parents. I used to root for her, but now I find myself not really caring if she does well or not.


that's a shame as you know she can revitlize a tour that is is need of a superstar

letswastemoney 02-13-2009 12:08 PM

Playing against males didn't make her worse.

Growing into a college student did.

I still want her to try the PGA Tour a couple more times. I don't think she could be or beat Tiger on a daily basis, but she could be an average player on the PGA Tour, which would be a far better accomplishment than winning on the women's tour which no one cares about.

Antitrust32 02-13-2009 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
Playing against males didn't make her worse.

Growing into a college student did.

I still want her to try the PGA Tour a couple more times. I don't think she could be or beat Tiger on a daily basis, but she could be an average player on the PGA Tour, which would be a far better accomplishment than winning on the women's tour which no one cares about.


I completely 100% disagree with that. on her GREATEST DAY EVER she couldnt beat Tiger's WORST DAY EVER. Tiger could beat her lefthanded and blindfolded.... (I do realize that you said you dont think she'd beat Tiger... but the thing is, she cant beat anyone on the PGA tour consistantly)

Cant even compare men to womans golf. The worst golfer on the PGA tour (actually having his card - i'm sure some girls could beat club pro's) would look like Tiger if he played in the LPGA tour.

Anneka tried and couldnt even make the cut. She was smart, and realized that women are inferior to men when it comes to athletic ability. Wie will never be the kind of golfer Anneka is/was.

The courses the men play are THOUSANDS of yards further than what the women play. If she played on the PGA tour she'd be lucky if she made 1 or 2 cuts per year... in the tourney's that the top players skip.

Its like saying Serena Williams could beat Nadal. Its rediculous.

GPK 02-13-2009 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
Playing against males didn't make her worse.

Growing into a college student did.

I still want her to try the PGA Tour a couple more times. I don't think she could be or beat Tiger on a daily basis, but she could be an average player on the PGA Tour, which would be a far better accomplishment than winning on the women's tour which no one cares about.


I had a friend that made a nice living on the LPGA tour for years. We played a lot of golf together through the years. We always played straight up I beat her as often as she beat me.

gales0678 02-13-2009 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
I had a friend that made a nice living on the LPGA tour for years. We played a lot of golf together through the years. We always played straight up I beat her as often as she beat me.

kev a little makeup , wig , grow some man t**s and then you could make some nice checks out there the way you chip and putt:D :D

gales0678 02-13-2009 03:35 PM

come on michelle , finish off with another birdie get to -10 please!

letswastemoney 02-13-2009 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I completely 100% disagree with that. on her GREATEST DAY EVER she couldnt beat Tiger's WORST DAY EVER. Tiger could beat her lefthanded and blindfolded.... (I do realize that you said you dont think she'd beat Tiger... but the thing is, she cant beat anyone on the PGA tour consistantly)

Cant even compare men to womans golf. The worst golfer on the PGA tour (actually having his card - i'm sure some girls could beat club pro's) would look like Tiger if he played in the LPGA tour.

Anneka tried and couldnt even make the cut. She was smart, and realized that women are inferior to men when it comes to athletic ability. Wie will never be the kind of golfer Anneka is/was.

The courses the men play are THOUSANDS of yards further than what the women play. If she played on the PGA tour she'd be lucky if she made 1 or 2 cuts per year... in the tourney's that the top players skip.

Its like saying Serena Williams could beat Nadal. Its rediculous.

They are about 1,000 yards longer. I'd say the average LPGA course is around 6,400? Is that fair....and the men's....7,400

Tennis is different. You rely on strength to hit the ball as hard as you could.

In golf, you can rely on strength, but if you are really, really accurate you can make a living as well. Michelle Wie hits the ball about as far as Fred Funk does. Would you find it strange if Fred Funk won a PGA Tour tournament? He's done so enough times with his average 250-260 yard drives.

The problem with Michelle Wie is that she is trying to hit it 300 yards in the regular PGA tour, when she should play within herself if she's trying against the men and just hit it 250 down the middle.

I really don't think it is impossible for Michelle to be an average player on the PGA Tour. The statistics on women playing golf on the PGA Tour aren't big enough to make a conclusion on whether women can do it. Who has tried? 5 or 6 people? There needs to be a bigger sample than that before you can draw a definite conclusion that no woman can do it. And if any woman can do it, it will be Michelle, as she isn't afraid of the criticism that comes with playing on the PGA Tour.

letswastemoney 02-13-2009 04:24 PM

Besides that, I like the fact that Michelle flies in the face of conventional wisdom by having goals beyond the LPGA.

She has her dream of being on the PGA Tour, and whether or not she fails, I applaud her for trying. She doesn't let anyone tell her that she's not good enough, and in that sense, she already beats all the other women in my book as none of them think they are good enough.

Coach Pants 02-13-2009 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
come on michelle , finish off with another birdie get to -10 please!

*cums*

GPK 02-13-2009 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
that's a shame as you know she can revitlize a tour that is is need of a superstar


Give me Lorena everyday of the week as a superstar to represent that tour as opposed to someone like Michelle.

GPK 02-13-2009 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
They are about 1,000 yards longer. I'd say the average LPGA course is around 6,400? Is that fair....and the men's....7,400

Tennis is different. You rely on strength to hit the ball as hard as you could.

In golf, you can rely on strength, but if you are really, really accurate you can make a living as well. Michelle Wie hits the ball about as far as Fred Funk does. Would you find it strange if Fred Funk won a PGA Tour tournament? He's done so enough times with his average 250-260 yard drives.

The problem with Michelle Wie is that she is trying to hit it 300 yards in the regular PGA tour, when she should play within herself if she's trying against the men and just hit it 250 down the middle.

I really don't think it is impossible for Michelle to be an average player on the PGA Tour. The statistics on women playing golf on the PGA Tour aren't big enough to make a conclusion on whether women can do it. Who has tried? 5 or 6 people? There needs to be a bigger sample than that before you can draw a definite conclusion that no woman can do it. And if any woman can do it, it will be Michelle, as she isn't afraid of the criticism that comes with playing on the PGA Tour.


Fred Funks short game is only a billion times better than Michelle's. It is VERY impossible for her to be an average player on the PGA Tour. Truth be told she would struggle to be average on the Nationwide Tour.

I have spent an awful lot of time around tours and seen some really incredible players. Michelle has the potential to be very very good on the LPGA Tour. People don't realize the disparity between the mens and womens tours. I can comfortably say that in my best years, I could have made a very nice living playing against the caliber on the LPGA. I came close to qualifying for a Nationwide event ONCE. Best I ever did was make a cut on the Hooters Tour.:zz:

MaTH716 02-13-2009 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Fred Funks short game is only a billion times better than Michelle's. It is VERY impossible for her to be an average player on the PGA Tour. Truth be told she would struggle to be average on the Nationwide Tour.

I have spent an awful lot of time around tours and seen some really incredible players. Michelle has the potential to be very very good on the LPGA Tour. People don't realize the disparity between the mens and womens tours. I can comfortably say that in my best years, I could have made a very nice living playing against the caliber on the LPGA. I came close to qualifying for a Nationwide event ONCE. Best I ever did was make a cut on the Hooters Tour.:zz:

I remember that tour, it was for all golfers 5'8" and under. ;)


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