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Kasept 11-27-2008 10:31 PM

11/30 (HOL): Matriarch/Hollywood Derby (Gr. I's)
 
7th (3:35) Matriarch S. (G1)

1 Mile (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 Black Mamba (NZ) Smith M E 123 L
2 Magical Fantasy Solis A 120 L
3 Precious Kitten Bejarano R 123 L
4 Criminologist Prado E S 123 L
5 Rosinka (IRE) Rose J 123 L
6 I Can See Baze T C 123 L
7 Visit (GB) Gomez G K 120
8 Roshani Velazquez J R 123
9 Cocoa Beach (CHI) Dominguez R 123 L



9th (4:35) Hollywood Derby (G1)

1 1/4 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 Dixie Chatter Baze T C 122 L
2 Court Vision Dominguez R A 122 L
3 Cowboy Cal Velazquez J R 122 L
4 Albahri (FR) Leparoux J R 122
5 Madeo Smith M E 122 L
6 Midships Bejarano R 122
7 Gio Ponti Gomez G K 122 L
8 Sailor's Cap Garcia Alan 122 L
9 Muny Flores D R 122 L

Payson Dave 11-28-2008 06:55 AM

Matriarch PP's
http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdf...her_132390.pdf

Hollywood Derby PP's
http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdf...her_132391.pdf

my miss storm cat 11-30-2008 12:16 AM

Cocoa Beach to win (easily)... hoping I Can See will get up there too. :)

eajinabi 11-30-2008 01:45 AM

I have never seen a race so hard to handicap as the Hollywood Derby.

hockey2315 11-30-2008 02:01 AM

The Cigar Mile was much harder. . .

letswastemoney 11-30-2008 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Cocoa Beach to win (easily)... hoping I Can See will get up there too. :)

Easily? Not with Precious Kitten in there... ;)

CSC 11-30-2008 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eajinabi
I have never seen a race so hard to handicap as the Hollywood Derby.

The Hollywood Derby is a very interesting race, this is an excellent betting opportunity, with what should be some quality horses at good value. The Matriarch another fantastic race should be more predictable it really comes down to 2 horses with perhaps a third.

PPerfectfan 11-30-2008 10:33 AM

Dixie Chatter in the Derby and I Can See in the Matriarch!!!! Dixie is working gangbusters and should run very well!

my miss storm cat 11-30-2008 10:42 AM

Midships / Madeo in the Derby (... and welcome back Railroad in R5. Would love to see Fast and Furious do well there too but not playing it).

Good luck everyone.

my miss storm cat 11-30-2008 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by letswastemoney
Easily? Not with Precious Kitten in there... ;)

We'll see. :p

cakes44 11-30-2008 12:45 PM

I'll take Rosinka, who should get a beautiful trip, and Gio Ponti.

eajinabi 11-30-2008 02:03 PM

In the Matriarch I like Criminologist.

In the Hollywood Derby I like Madeo.

The Bet:

$50 win on Criminologist

$80 win on Madeo

eajinabi 11-30-2008 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PPerfectfan
Dixie Chatter in the Derby and I Can See in the Matriarch!!!! Dixie is working gangbusters and should run very well!

Horse looks very interesting to me. Will include in P3

Kasept 11-30-2008 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PPerfectfan
Dixie Chatter in the Derby and I Can See in the Matriarch!!!! Dixie is working gangbusters and should run very well!

PPF..

I am definitely including I Can See in the exotics. Backed off thinking she could take the top spot, but agree she's worth a look at boxcars.

G/L..

PPerfectfan 11-30-2008 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
PPF..

I am definitely including I Can See in the exotics. Backed off thinking she could take the top spot, but agree she's worth a look at boxcars.

G/L..

Yeah she is in very tough but she is a very useful mare. I have been watching her for a year or more, and she hasnt disgraced herself at all.

10 pnt move up 11-30-2008 06:17 PM

Well that was pretty impressive run by Cocoa Beach, Precious Kitten was 1/5 when they put up 25 and 49.

CSC 11-30-2008 06:33 PM

Hollywood Derby super race, lots of value. To me this is a race where Cowboy Cal has to be used, Sailors Cap 12:1 ML? is another that should be respected, tough trip/pace dynamics in his last. Of the Cali based runners, Madeo looks the most promising. The unknown is Albahri, his win was only in listed company and for me the names he beat are not household names. But Biancone is very sneaky...

1. Cowboy Cal
2. Sailor's Cap
3. Albahri

I'll let Court Vision and Gio beat me today.

cakes44 11-30-2008 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
Well that was pretty impressive run by Cocoa Beach, Precious Kitten was 1/5 when they put up 25 and 49.


She's one of the few animals lately that can run on anything and connections that aren't afraid to. She should have a huge year next year with that kind of versatility.

10 pnt move up 11-30-2008 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44
She's one of the few animals lately that can run on anything and connections that aren't afraid to. She should have a huge year next year with that kind of versatility.

my advice to her is to avoid Zenyatta on any racing surface...but yea she seems pretty special.

RolloTomasi 11-30-2008 06:48 PM

Madeo-Dixie Chatter exacta box.


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