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dylbert 11-24-2008 08:24 PM

(11/29) FG Mambo in Seattle Returns!
 
9th Fair Grounds
Tenacious H.

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $60,000

1 Real Dandy Hernandez B J Jr 115 L
2 Stonehouse Compton P 114 L
3 Mambo in Seattle Lanerie C J 120 L
4 Rector Campbell J M 113 L
5 Coragil Cat Jacinto J 116 L
6 Stones River Saez G 115 L
7 Good and Lucky Valenzuela P A 114 L
8 Tend Zimmerman R 114 L
9 Secret Getaway Graham J 116 L

A-Coupled: Rector and Coragil Cat

letswastemoney 11-24-2008 08:48 PM

Yes!!!

VOL JACK 11-24-2008 10:24 PM

Surprised that Farish let Neil Howard chicken out of the Clark.
I guess he dont have a lot of confidence in his private trainer since he has won all of 11 races from 144 runners. ( 3 by Mambo in Seattle).

Im fairly confident if I had Will Farishs' horses I could win at better than an 8% clip.

RolloTomasi 11-25-2008 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Surprised that Farish let Neil Howard chicken out of the Clark.
I guess he dont have a lot of confidence in his private trainer since he has won all of 11 races from 144 runners. ( 3 by Mambo in Seattle).

Im fairly confident if I had Will Farishs' horses I could win at better than an 8% clip.

Wouldn't running Mambo In Seattle, a horse who has yet to win a graded stakes, in a race like the Clark (versus top class Commentator) be the type of move that would cause Howard to hit at 8%?

Maybe you'd be a better fit taking over the Paraneck operation.

blackthroatedwind 11-25-2008 07:18 PM

Mambo in Seattle ran a month ago, for what it's worth, at Keeneland. He's hardly " returning. "

the_fat_man 11-25-2008 07:20 PM

He's in real tough.:rolleyes:

Let's all get excited.

NTamm1215 11-25-2008 07:55 PM

How quickly will a Mambo victory in the Tenacious vault him to the top of the 2009 handicap division?

Wow- that's what we're looking at next year.

NT

Indian Charlie 11-25-2008 08:50 PM

Mambo in Seattle sooooooooo reminds me of Grasshopper it's not even funny.

Those two in a race together would be pretty cool, kinda like watching a pg1985 vs da hoss handicapping contest.

Indian Charlie 11-25-2008 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I laughed. I would however like to see you and PG1985 in a handicapping contest. He's 3-5 to beat you.

Kinda touchy, no? What made you think I was denigrating your capping skills?

As for him beating me, that's doubtful, and if I had a $3 lead going into the last day, I wouldn't squat like you did. Unless it was for a big cash prize instead of pride.

Now that I think about it, I think we should have some sort of round robin contest on here. Every week, PG1985 gets to face off against someone different. You, me, Pants, Raggedy Ann, Andy, etc.

blackthroatedwind 11-25-2008 10:51 PM

Of course he has a bad opinion....he's friendly with DrugS.

Coach Pants 11-25-2008 10:56 PM

Wow. Mambo in Seattle.

It's akin to going to the Sports forum and finding a thread titled

(11/3) Detroit: Dante Culpepper returns to the NFL!

Indian Charlie 11-26-2008 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Not touchy at all. Although I'm not sure how else your post could be taken other than as a shot.

The squat part is funny also. I guess that wasn't a shot either. How many winners did he pick the last day?

Let's be honest for a second though. Whether you like to admit it or not, your opinion's horrible. It's a good thing you don't bet anymore. Did you get a chance to watch the BC Filly and Mare Sprint yet?

Not touchy? UH, yeah.

Actually, I wasn't taking a shot at your capping skills initially. I was making commentary on how lame the contest was between you and Joseph.

Clearly you are being touchy, as evidenced by your PM to me.

The only part you have right is about my opinion. The rare times I have posted my opinion on here, the results have been pretty poor. These things happen.

And yeah, I did watch Ventura beat Indian Blessing!! That was a great call on your part man! As much as you keep liking to remind me about that, I sure hope you cashed large on that race. After all, it's not often you see a second or third betting choice win a race.

King Glorious 11-26-2008 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
Wouldn't running Mambo In Seattle, a horse who has yet to win a graded stakes, in a race like the Clark (versus top class Commentator) be the type of move that would cause Howard to hit at 8%?

Maybe you'd be a better fit taking over the Paraneck operation.

So a couple of inches the other way and he's a Travers winner and fits in the Clark but since those inches didn't go his way, he'd be overmatched in the race?

VOL JACK 11-26-2008 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
Wouldn't running Mambo In Seattle, a horse who has yet to win a graded stakes, in a race like the Clark (versus top class Commentator) be the type of move that would cause Howard to hit at 8%?

Maybe you'd be a better fit taking over the Paraneck operation.

Well shouldnt the horse that loses the worst head-bob ever in the G1 Travers, supposed to be running in the Clark.
If a horse loses a photo in the Travers, the highlight of his fall campaign shouldnt be a 60k overnight at the FG.

I would school those guys at Paraneck also....And so would anyone with a brain and the ability to hire a good vet.

Bobby Fischer 11-26-2008 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Mambo in Seattle sooooooooo reminds me of Grasshopper it's not even funny.

Basically

you kind of have to hope he wins this in a visually impressive fashion. He's one of those horses you can toss as a 2nd choice or even a favorite in a good stakes race eventually.

Linny 11-26-2008 09:32 AM

Albarado did a bit of race riding against Mambo in the Gold Cup. As Mambo's regular rider, I assume that he thought he was a legit rival when he rode Curlin such as to keep Mambo down inside that day. Mambo fell back but the inside was not really the place to be and Robby made him stay there.

Mambo was obviously not the same horse on the Poly at Keeneland. I think he might deserve a shot in the Clark but Howard generally uses the FG stakes program. Mineshaft and Student Council went this route as did Grasshopper last year (not that he proved to be that good....) Maybe he feels that a confidence booster is better for the horse right now than a potentially tough race.

RolloTomasi 11-26-2008 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious
So a couple of inches the other way and he's a Travers winner and fits in the Clark but since those inches didn't go his way, he'd be overmatched in the race?

Did you see the Jockey Club Gold Cup or the Ben Ali? How many inches did he need to win those?

Note the Travers is a age-restricted race, too. Are 3yos beating top class older horses like Commentator right and left?


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