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Kasept 11-18-2008 08:22 AM

Mott-Zayat appear officially done
 
Recent speculation had the prominent owner-trainer pair splitting, but were belied by some Zayat horses continuing to be saddled by Mott. However, as of yesterday, it now appears that the pair are officially out-of-business together..

Bobby Fischer 11-18-2008 08:47 AM

as long as he doesn't give them to Romans.

blackthroatedwind 11-18-2008 09:14 AM

I wonder how this is playing on Facebook. Are people choosing sides?

The Bid 11-18-2008 09:33 AM

Zayats crew is boarderline embarrassing. The way the horses are bought, spotted, campaigned, its a complete joke. Youd be hardpressed to find a group that has more highdollar busts than Zayat

Thunder Gulch 11-18-2008 09:43 AM

Mott refuses to dope for Zayat, so he gets canned.

blackthroatedwind 11-18-2008 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch
Mott refuses to dope for Zayat, so he gets canned.



Let me guess......you got this information from Facebook?

the_fat_man 11-18-2008 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Zayats crew is boarderline embarrassing. The way the horses are bought, spotted, campaigned, its a complete joke. Youd be hardpressed to find a group that has more highdollar busts than Zayat

Maybe they don't pay as much or have as many horses but the Klavarich crew probably is right up there for incompetence when it comes to picking horses. Someone pays 1/20th what they pay for horses would probably get comparable results.

The Bid 11-18-2008 11:31 AM

No doubt about it Klavarich is in the same breath.

philcski 11-18-2008 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Maybe they don't pay as much or have as many horses but the Klavarich crew probably is right up there for incompetence when it comes to picking horses. Someone pays 1/20th what they pay for horses would probably get comparable results.

Agree... been saying this for a while.


Klaravich has had some success at least along the way. What has Zayat done? His best horse is a turf miler that requires a perfect trip to even be competitive. His 2nd best horse is a sprinter that folds under pressure. The rest of horses just plain suck for the money he spends.

The Bid 11-18-2008 11:42 AM

They are both very brutal. They deserve what they get, which isnt much

asudevil 11-18-2008 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I wonder how this is playing on Facebook. Are people choosing sides?

ha ha ha ha ha....Andy, one of your best one's yet.

Simple, yet hilarious.

Kasept 11-18-2008 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Agree... been saying this for a while.


Klaravich has had some success at least along the way. What has Zayat done? His best horse is a turf miler that requires a perfect trip to even be competitive. His 2nd best horse is a sprinter that folds under pressure. The rest of horses just plain suck for the money he spends.

Seth Klarman's greatest success, dollar for dollar, came when Gary Sciacca trained his horses.

VOL JACK 11-18-2008 12:29 PM

Klaravich sure waited for the absolute peak time to jump on the T. Pletcher bandwagon.

philcski 11-18-2008 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Seth Klarman's greatest success, dollar for dollar, came when Gary Sciacca trained his horses.

I remember he had Subordination with Sciacca, he was a pretty low purchase price, right?

blackthroatedwind 11-18-2008 01:01 PM

Zayat Stables certainly places their horses aggressively.

gales0678 11-18-2008 01:16 PM

andy - what about west point , i always felt that they were aggressive as well

High Finance was never the same after the Belmont and Lear's Princess probably should not have run in the BC

as you know , i do know an owner , and he tells me he has no say in what races the horses go to , it's pretty much up to mgmt

Kasept 11-18-2008 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I remember he had Subordination with Sciacca, he was a pretty low purchase price, right?

I think they paid $50,000 or maybe $70,000...

SUBORDINATION

21 Starts: 11-3-1 ($1,221,068)

At 3: Won Crown Royal Hollywood Derby (G1), Jamaica H. (G2), Hill Prince S. (G3)

At 4: Won Eddie Read H. (G1), Brooklyn H. (G2), Belmont Breeders' Cup H. (G2), Fort Marcy H. (G3), Canadian Turf H. (G3)


They also did well with Currency Arbitrage. And others...


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