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pweizer 11-12-2008 02:58 PM
An interesting pipe dream
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...emy&id=3696177

Antitrust32 11-12-2008 03:12 PM
Philly Park's only two racing months are jan & feb when its freezing??? :zz:

Calder only races in sep & oct? according to his plan fl will have absolutely no racing for 6 months out of the year. same with nyra - no racing 6 months out of the year.

He must have crack in his "pipe" dream.

SniperSB23 11-12-2008 03:13 PM
Racing sure would be brutal after August.

Antitrust32 11-12-2008 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Racing sure would be brutal after August.
I like this:

New York racing opens in March with Aqueduct and continues through August consecutively. The circuit runners can then easily move across the bridge to Meadowlands in Sept.-Oct. before a necessary winter break. When January rolls around, top NYRA barns can compete at Gulfstream as per usual, while lesser runners can compete for huge slots purses at nearby Philadelphia Park.

Could Meadowlands possibly handle all the NY horses AND the NJ horses in one two month meet?

And a necessary winter break? How about all the horsemen who make their living during the winter in NY?

SniperSB23 11-12-2008 03:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I like this:

New York racing opens in March with Aqueduct and continues through August consecutively. The circuit runners can then easily move across the bridge to Meadowlands in Sept.-Oct. before a necessary winter break. When January rolls around, top NYRA barns can compete at Gulfstream as per usual, while lesser runners can compete for huge slots purses at nearby Philadelphia Park.

Could Meadowlands possibly handle all the NY horses AND the NJ horses in one two month meet?

And a necessary winter break? How about all the horsemen who make their living during the winter in NY?
Yeah, there are a lot of holes in his plan. The overall idea of tracks cooperating is good but his logistics are pretty terrible.

Antitrust32 11-12-2008 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Yeah, there are a lot of holes in his plan. The overall idea of tracks cooperating is good but his logistics are pretty terrible.
yes... I'm glad his dream will be staying in his pipe!

Was a slightly interesting read though.

AeWingnut 11-12-2008 03:52 PM
Further, horsemen simply don't want to budge. Whether we're talking finances, drug policies or race days, horsemen remain a group firmly against change.

The horseman that I talked to claims that Churchill Downs won't come to the table.

brianwspencer 11-12-2008 04:21 PM
And Hawthorne is the only racetrack in America that gets two meets?!

Cannon Shell 11-12-2008 06:40 PM
This is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen.

GPK 11-12-2008 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
This is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen.

Just curious, why so?

Cannon Shell 11-12-2008 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by GPK
Just curious, why so?
Really?

GPK 11-12-2008 06:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Really?

For an idiot like me that has no real clue on the inner workings of things at the track, yes.

gales0678 11-12-2008 06:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I like this:

New York racing opens in March with Aqueduct and continues through August consecutively. The circuit runners can then easily move across the bridge to Meadowlands in Sept.-Oct. before a necessary winter break. When January rolls around, top NYRA barns can compete at Gulfstream as per usual, while lesser runners can compete for huge slots purses at nearby Philadelphia Park.

Could Meadowlands possibly handle all the NY horses AND the NJ horses in one two month meet? no

And a necessary winter break? How about all the horsemen who make their living during the winter in NY?
it would be tough on a lot of big a trainers who don't do as well at BEL and SAR

Cannon Shell 11-12-2008 06:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GPK
For an idiot like me that has no real clue on the inner workings of things at the track, yes.
The travel involved is insane. Because so many of these tracks are so far apart you would need to move your whole operation 4 or 5 times a year. What about stalls? The number of stalls at each track varies widely. What about statebred programs? What about the tracks left out? Keeneland has no spring meet? Belmont has no fall meet? No racing in NY after Saratoga? The whole thing is stupid. It isnt even a good pipe dream. Mountaineer only runs in Jan and Feb?

GPK 11-12-2008 06:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
The travel involved is insane. Because so many of these tracks are so far apart you would need to move your whole operation 4 or 5 times a year. What about stalls? The number of stalls at each track varies widely. What about statebred programs? What about the tracks left out? Keeneland has no spring meet? Belmont has no fall meet? No racing in NY after Saratoga? The whole thing is stupid. It isnt even a good pipe dream. Mountaineer only runs in Jan and Feb?

Thanks. I never think about those kind of things. I just bet on 'em and watch 'em run in circles:wf

gales0678 11-12-2008 06:59 PM
chuck - nyra wouldn't go for it - 6 months of no action with slots coming to Aqu in the plans doesn't make sense

Cannon Shell 11-12-2008 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by gales0678
chuck - nyra wouldn't go for it - 6 months of no action with slots coming to Aqu in the plans doesn't make sense
No one would go for it.

Coach Pants 11-12-2008 07:11 PM
When ESPN hired Plonk they decided not to fire him because he was severely retarded. They also noticed he was gay so they had no choice but to keep him because they couldn't afford the liability of a lawsuit...especially after the Sean Salisbury fiasco. Having said all that, I consider him a top tier journalist for a retarded gay guy. I just think he rubs people the wrong way. I wasn't surprised by this article because he's retarded and fruity.

philcski 11-12-2008 07:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
The travel involved is insane. Because so many of these tracks are so far apart you would need to move your whole operation 4 or 5 times a year. What about stalls? The number of stalls at each track varies widely. What about statebred programs? What about the tracks left out? Keeneland has no spring meet? Belmont has no fall meet? No racing in NY after Saratoga? The whole thing is stupid. It isnt even a good pipe dream. Mountaineer only runs in Jan and Feb?
You say this like it's a bad thing :D


Seriously though... while the number of racing dates could certainly be downsized, eliminating the Belmont fall meet is laughable. Aqueduct 3 months a year with a 3 month break in Dec-Feb makes a lot of sense... let the good NYRA horses go to GP, the mediocre ones to Philly, and the really bad ones some time off.

gales0678 11-12-2008 07:16 PM
i like the big a in the winter , of the 3 ny tracks , i think it gives the ny player the best chance to win


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