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Mike 10-21-2008 09:42 AM

Papi Chullo in $16k claimer today
 
Delaware's 2nd race:
http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdf...ssa_128433.pdf

my miss storm cat 10-21-2008 10:34 AM

Oh wow, I wondered what happened to him...

SuffolkGirl 10-21-2008 11:42 AM

Good luck to the lovely Papi Chullo. Run safely. I was wondering if he'd ever come back. Last saw him at Kenny Lejuene's farm in Florida.

Antitrust32 10-21-2008 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SuffolkGirl
Good luck to the lovely Papi Chullo. Run safely. I was wondering if he'd ever come back. Last saw him at Kenny Lejuene's farm in Florida.


Cajun and I did too... good luck Big Papi!

Mike 10-21-2008 12:55 PM

Papi won, paying a surprisingly high $5.40

Rudeboyelvis 10-21-2008 12:55 PM

>>>"Vied for the lead racing two wide, shook loose completing 6 furlongs then was under steady handling to hold sway"<<<

Haven't seen it, though the chart caller seems relatively unimpressed. Maybe needed one to shake off the rust...

Rudeboyelvis 10-21-2008 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike
Papi won, paying a surprisingly high $5.40

Chart says $3.40 (1.70 for a buck)

philcski 10-21-2008 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
Chart says $3.40 (1.70 for a buck)

=1.70*2 + your original 2 bucks back = 5.40 payoff

jballscalls 10-21-2008 01:28 PM

didnt even get claimed

slotdirt 10-21-2008 01:31 PM

Wow, that's unbelievable. I met the owners (at the time) on last year's Belmont day where he won the Birdstone Stakes. Seemed like nice enough folks.

parsixfarms 10-21-2008 01:36 PM

Looks like he goes from the Whitney Handicap at Saratoga in 2007 to the starter handicaps at Aqueduct in 2008-09.

Bigsmc 10-21-2008 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Wow, that's unbelievable. I met the owners (at the time) on last year's Belmont day where he won the Birdstone Stakes. Seemed like nice enough folks.

Does that mean running the horse for a 16k tag makes them not nice?

blackthroatedwind 10-21-2008 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms
Looks like he goes from the Whitney Handicap at Saratoga in 2007 to the starter handicaps at Aqueduct in 2008-09.

Being that he returned at Delaware I can't wait to bet against him in NY.

jms62 10-22-2008 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Does that mean running the horse for a 16k tag makes them not nice?

Actually yes it does. A horse that has done so much for them running in a 16K claimer. They certainly could have given him a nice retirement for what he has done for them.

Handicappy 10-22-2008 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62
Actually yes it does. A horse that has done so much for them running in a 16K claimer. They certainly could have given him a nice retirement for what he has done for them.

The best response to a question on the blog.:wf :tro:

blackthroatedwind 10-22-2008 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62
Actually yes it does. A horse that has done so much for them running in a 16K claimer. They certainly could have given him a nice retirement for what he has done for them.

He was purchased privately three or four starts ago ( at least in part ).

slotdirt 10-22-2008 08:02 AM

I think my comment of yesterday was misunderstood. It just seems like a darn long way to fall that fast for a horse that was running pretty decently just a year ago.

Linny 10-22-2008 09:24 AM

The horse was first off the long layoff, plnging in price and had tons of red flags, even at $16k. I'm not sure but thin Winning Move bought him just before the May 4th '07 race at Belmont. I saw him win the Birdstone in their colors. I don't know when IEAH and Goldfarb (?) got in. They are listed as co owners in the Tue Form .
My guess is that they gave him the race, hoping that no one would talk the risk on him in this economy and the liklihood of having to pay to ship him someplace once DEL ends. The risk paid off, they won and kept the horse.
As for him going from G1 to overnights inside a year well, he was hardly a true G1 horse as his Whitney was a 12 length loss. He was a solid G2-3 horse however. It's not like horses don't plummet. (Anyone noticed Silver Prospector in for a $4k tag at F'Lakes lately. Last winter he was winning at AQU with BSF's over 100.)

BTW, as an aside, I met Papi a couple of years ago in the Saratoga Stakes barn. He was asweet horse, let my son feed him treats etc. Even though he was a colt, he wasn't mouthy or pushy. Whatever happens to him, I hope he gets to put his nice attitude to work someplace.

jms62 10-22-2008 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Linny
The horse was first off the long layoff, plnging in price and had tons of red flags, even at $16k. I'm not sure but thin Winning Move bought him just before the May 4th '07 race at Belmont. I saw him win the Birdstone in their colors. I don't know when IEAH and Goldfarb (?) got in. They are listed as co owners in the Tue Form .
My guess is that they gave him the race, hoping that no one would talk the risk on him in this economy and the liklihood of having to pay to ship him someplace once DEL ends. The risk paid off, they won and kept the horse.
As for him going from G1 to overnights inside a year well, he was hardly a true G1 horse as his Whitney was a 12 length loss. He was a solid G2-3 horse however. It's not like horses don't plummet. (Anyone noticed Silver Prospector in for a $4k tag at F'Lakes lately. Last winter he was winning at AQU with BSF's over 100.)

BTW, as an aside, I met Papi a couple of years ago in the Saratoga Stakes barn. He was asweet horse, let my son feed him treats etc. Even though he was a colt, he wasn't mouthy or pushy. Whatever happens to him, I hope he gets to put his nice attitude to work someplace.

Sorry to Papi's former owners that sold, they shouldn't be lumped in with what happened. IEAH?? Running him in an 18K claimer is kind of different than the sappy pictures of Ivarone consoling Big Brown and all of the stories (from them) about how much they love thier horses... I got blasted when I said I "Hated" them on these threads but they are doing nothing to change my opinion. So instead of "hate" can I say they disappoint me as human beings. But again they are Wallstreet boys and we know how that story is playing out.

MISTERGEE 10-22-2008 09:45 AM

papi has won over 300k, last sat at kee race 2, Tour of the Cat winner of over 1 million $ wins a 16 k race and pays $16.80. I wonder how many 1 mill or more earners have ever run fot that price or less. by the way tour of the cat is a 10yo g


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