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Honu 09-12-2008 01:43 PM

For my Liberal friends...food for thought.
 
John Glenn (DEMOCRAT) said this ----- It should make us all think a little
There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January. In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January. That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq .

When some claim that President Bush shouldn't have started this war, tell them the following :
FDR (DEMOCRAT) led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us; Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost ... an average of 112,500 per year.
Truman (DEMOCRAT) finished that war and started one in Korea . North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost ... an average of 18,334 per year.
John F. Kennedy (DEMOCRAT) started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us.
Johnson (DEMOCRAT) turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost ... an average of 5,800 per year.
Clinton (DEMOCRAT) went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.
In the years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and, North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. And the Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking.

It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno (DEMOCRAT) to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation .

We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton (DEMOCRAT) to find the Rose law firm billing records.

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.


It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida !!!

And just a few more facts for my Liberal friends:

Einstein once said: 'The definition of insanity is: "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."



The following stats come from an article by Glen Beck.

What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate "all" have in common? Answer: Democrat leadership.
Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961;


Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954;


Cincinnati, OH (3rd)... since 1984;

Cleveland, OH, (4th)... since 1989;


Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican Mayor;

St. Louis, MO (6th).... since 1949;

El Paso, TX (7th) Has never had a Republican Mayor;

Milwaukee, WI (8th)... since 1908;

Philadelphia, PA (9th)... since 1952;

Newark, NJ (10th)... since 1907.

It is the disadvantaged who habitually elect Democrats,

yet are still disadvantaged ... hmmm...make you wonder?








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timmgirvan 09-12-2008 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honu
John Glenn (DEMOCRAT) said this ----- It should make us all think a little
There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January. In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January. That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq .

When some claim that President Bush shouldn't have started this war, tell them the following :
FDR (DEMOCRAT) led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us; Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost ... an average of 112,500 per year.
Truman (DEMOCRAT) finished that war and started one in Korea . North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost ... an average of 18,334 per year.
John F. Kennedy (DEMOCRAT) started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us.
Johnson (DEMOCRAT) turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost ... an average of 5,800 per year.
Clinton (DEMOCRAT) went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.
In the years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and, North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. And the Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking.

It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno (DEMOCRAT) to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation .

We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton (DEMOCRAT) to find the Rose law firm billing records.

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.


It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida !!!

And just a few more facts for my Liberal friends:

Einstein once said: 'The definition of insanity is: "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."



The following stats come from an article by Glen Beck.

What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate "all" have in common? Answer: Democrat leadership.
Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961;


Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954;


Cincinnati, OH (3rd)... since 1984;

Cleveland, OH, (4th)... since 1989;


Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican Mayor;

St. Louis, MO (6th).... since 1949;

El Paso, TX (7th) Has never had a Republican Mayor;

Milwaukee, WI (8th)... since 1908;

Philadelphia, PA (9th)... since 1952;

Newark, NJ (10th)... since 1907.

It is the disadvantaged who habitually elect Democrats,

yet are still disadvantaged ... hmmm...make you wo





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Thanks Honu...if I'd have posted this, people woulda had a cow:eek:

ateamstupid 09-12-2008 01:51 PM

:rolleyes: That settles it. More Republican leadership is what's needed, because that's done us so much good the last eight years.

Food for deez nuts.

Honu 09-12-2008 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
:rolleyes: That settles it. More Republican leadership is what's needed, because that's done us so much good the last eight years.

Food for deez nuts.

It doesnt settle anything , the vote in November will , I was just putting some facts out there that people should consider.

ateamstupid 09-12-2008 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honu
It doesnt settle anything , the vote in November will , I was just putting some facts out there that people should consider.

My ass you were 'just putting some facts out there'.

dalakhani 09-12-2008 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honu
It doesnt settle anything , the vote in November will , I was just putting some facts out there that people should consider.

Your "facts" really dont have anytyhing to do with the price of tea in china. How about these facts:

- The price of oil is about 101 dollars a barrel. It was less then forty when Bush took office.

- The dollar vs. the euro is currently 1.41. It was .85 when Bush took office.

- Osama Bin Laden is living in a cave in Pakistan....as he was when Bush took office when this country was 2 trillion dollars richer.


- Outside of homeland security and military spending, Bush's administration saw the greatest rise in govt spending...ever.




Want more facts or just ignorant right wing propaganda?

timmgirvan 09-12-2008 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani
Your "facts" really dont have anytyhing to do with the price of tea in china. How about these facts:

- The price of oil is about 101 dollars a barrel. It was less then forty when Bush took office.

- The dollar vs. the euro is currently 1.41. It was .85 when Bush took office.

- Osama Bin Laden is living in a cave in Pakistan....as he was when Bush took office when this country was 2 trillion dollars richer.


- Outside of homeland security and military spending, Bush's administration saw the greatest rise in govt spending...ever.




Want more facts or just ignorant right wing propaganda?

yeah...it's all GW's fault...how 'bout your halfwit Congress.....like herding cats, but you're satisfied with blaming Bush. What a tool

Honu 09-12-2008 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
My ass you were 'just putting some facts out there'.

Dude whatever, the information I posted is Fact. As far as the federal government is concerned this is what I want from them:

To protect my freedom at all cost and give me my S.S. check when I retire that I have been paying into since I was 16 years old.

I dont want them to make sure I have a job ( cause really that is up to me).
I dont want them to take my money and give it to people who are very capable of doing something to earn a living.
I dont want them to buy me health insurance , if they tax me less I will get it on my own , or not.

dalakhani 09-12-2008 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan
yeah...it's all GW's fault...how 'bout your halfwit Congress.....like herding cats, but you're satisfied with blaming Bush. What a tool

Ummmmm....The republicans had control of the congress for much of this administration...moron.

The next time you go to your klan meeting ask brother Delmar what he thinks about you mixing with us folks.

White power!

dalakhani 09-12-2008 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honu
Dude whatever, the information I posted is Fact. As far as the federal government is concerned this is what I want from them:

To protect my freedom at all cost and give me my S.S. check when I retire that I have been paying into since I was 16 years old.

I dont want them to make sure I have a job ( cause really that is up to me).
I dont want them to take my money and give it to people who are very capable of doing something to earn a living.
I dont want them to buy me health insurance , if they tax me less I will get it on my own , or not.

Ummmm...have you looked at this administration's record on the social security issue.

I can tell you have a grasp of the facts.

ateamstupid 09-12-2008 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honu
Dude whatever, the information I posted is Fact. As far as the federal government is concerned this is what I want from them:

To protect my freedom at all cost and give me my S.S. check when I retire that I have been paying into since I was 16 years old.

I dont want them to make sure I have a job ( cause really that is up to me).
I dont want them to take my money and give it to people who are very capable of doing something to earn a living.
I dont want them to buy me health insurance , if they tax me less I will get it on my own , or not.

Ah yes, the old Republican refrain. Forget the butchering of the country that's happened for eight years. What's really wrong with America is.. Too many (read: black) people on welfare! Indeed, that's what's turned this economy to ****.

One day, it might be wise to take a look outside your narrow scope of 'I don't want them povs moochin' off my damn dollar!" and actually vote based on what'll be best for you, as well as what'll be best for the country.

Honestly, Bush has 'protected your freedom'? The freedom to have one's phone tapped by the government.. Yes, it's a beautiful thing.

The Indomitable DrugS 09-12-2008 02:17 PM

This is pretty high up there when it comes to insane talking points. But what do you expect - anyone who is still defending this War has to be a complete fool.

Three points are attempted to be made with this silly propaganda.

* "Only" 39 US combat deaths in a month.

* Democrats historically start all the wars.

* Big cities overwhelmingly elect democrats as mayors and big cities tend to have high levels of poverty.

I love how murders in the city of Detroit is used to compare with one month of combat deaths.

It makes me nostalgic for the single greatest gaffe in VP history. Here's what Bob Dole said at the 1976 Vice President debate:

"I figured it up the other day: If we added up the killed and wounded in Democrat wars in this century, it would be about 1.6 million Americans — enough to fill the city of Detroit"

And you wonder how Jimmy Carter got elected in '76?

SentToStud 09-12-2008 02:18 PM

Don't knoiw where the "39 Iraqis killed" in January comes from. About 500 Iraqi civilians were killed in January.

The main takeaway is that we ought to have more Detroiters in the miltary.

Detroit: Where the weak are eaten alive.

timmgirvan 09-12-2008 02:32 PM

Dalakani and Ateam: a mind is a terrible thing to waste! Try not falling for every F'n thing that the Libs trot out there,huh! Repubicans did not control congress for the last 8 yrs...I think they lost command in '04. Still..you should be real F'n proud of the job Pelosi and Reid have done to stalemate any
real activity(good or bad) in Congress! Truly..you can't get out of this one!
I'm out for now...for awhile.....duty calls;)

dalakhani 09-12-2008 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Dalakani and Ateam: a mind is a terrible thing to waste! Try not falling for every F'n thing that the Libs trot out there,huh! Repubicans did not control congress for the last 8 yrs...I think they lost command in '04. Still..you should be real F'n proud of the job Pelosi and Reid have done to stalemate any
real activity(good or bad) in Congress! Truly..you can't get out of this one!
I'm out for now...for awhile.....duty calls;)

The republicans lost control of congress in 06. Yes, a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

ateamstupid 09-12-2008 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Dalakani and Ateam: a mind is a terrible thing to waste! Try not falling for every F'n thing that the Libs trot out there,huh! Repubicans did not control congress for the last 8 yrs...I think they lost command in '04. Still..you should be real F'n proud of the job Pelosi and Reid have done to stalemate any
real activity(good or bad) in Congress! Truly..you can't get out of this one!
I'm out for now...for awhile.....duty calls;)

They 'lost command' in '06, and they don't have enough of a majority to override anything Bush vetoes, so there goes that.

timmgirvan 09-12-2008 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
They 'lost command' in '06, and they don't have enough of a majority to override anything Bush vetoes, so there goes that.

Still..the main problem is with the legislative body,imo! Presidential veto isn't
this mans' sole domain..other Prez have wielded it also

ateamstupid 09-12-2008 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Still..the main problem is with the legislative body,imo! Presidential veto isn't
this mans' sole domain..other Prez have wielded it also

Your point?

Honu 09-12-2008 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani
Ummmmm....The republicans had control of the congress for much of this administration...moron.

The next time you go to your klan meeting ask brother Delmar what he thinks about you mixing with us folks.

White power!


Oh please give me a break , I never stated who is living off my money for free , it must be in your mind who you think is living off of it.
I very well think that the white man standing on the corner with a sign all day asking for money is capable of getting a job holding a sign for a car dealership that is having a sale.
The more money the government takes from you , the more of your freedom they take also and that is a fact . I work with way to many people from other countries who like to say how good the homeland is with their government providing insurance and welfare , but yet here they are, in America working and do you know why , because they get paid more and get to keep more .

Honu 09-12-2008 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SentToStud
Don't knoiw where the "39 Iraqis killed" in January comes from. About 500 Iraqi civilians were killed in January.

The main takeaway is that we ought to have more Detroiters in the miltary.

Detroit: Where the weak are eaten alive.

It wasnt 39 killed Iraqis , it is 39 combat related American deaths.


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