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boldruler 07-29-2006 04:52 PM

Just give Bernardini HOY
 
Nobody is beating that horse anywhere. Not even the older horses.

MinnSkinny 07-29-2006 04:53 PM

Wow he looked sooooo good, like watching M Ali in his prime.

2Hot4TV 07-29-2006 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by boldruler
Nobody is beating that horse anywhere. Not even the older horses.

Maybe so, but he has to see older horse before the year is out.

Danzig 07-29-2006 05:46 PM

bernardini is still on the outside looking in for top three year old at this point. even a travers win might not get him that vote, certainly not hoy. he'd have to win the bcc to get them both. lava man and flower alley might have something to say about that.

SentToStud 07-29-2006 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by boldruler
Nobody is beating that horse anywhere. Not even the older horses.

More proclamations.

He looked good.

It is one thing to beat a reasy for a rest Sunriver and an inexperienced Ministers Bid.

It is quite another thing to beat seasoned older horses,

We'll see.

Raysva 07-29-2006 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
More proclamations.

He looked good.

It is one thing to beat a reasy for a rest Sunriver and an inexperienced Ministers Bid.

It is quite another thing to beat seasoned older horses,

We'll see.

Well said ,Almost the same thing I mentioned Barbaro Who? thread.

Buffymommy 07-29-2006 06:16 PM

How was his time? I am not saying he won't get HOY, but let's not hand it out until after the BCC.

boldruler 07-29-2006 06:18 PM

If you can't see that this one is special then you are missing something. If anything he in underrated.

boldruler 07-29-2006 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy
How was his time? I am not saying he won't get HOY, but let's not hand it out until after the BCC.

You don't need to know the time. It was that impressive.

Buffymommy 07-29-2006 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by boldruler
If you can't see that this one is special then you are missing something. If anything he in underrated.


I haven't watched the race yet. Preakness was very nice. Just not a believer in handing out HOY awards until after the BCC, and I am certainly not going to put Bernardini at the top of my list until I see the race from today. My nephew and mom are playing video games on the only tv in my mom's house.

boldruler 07-29-2006 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy
I haven't watched the race yet. Preakness was very nice. Just not a believer in handing out HOY awards until after the BCC, and I am certainly not going to put Bernardini at the top of my list until I see the race from today. My nephew and mom are playing video games on the only tv in my mom's house.

Trust me, this might be the best horse in decades. When a jockey says "After the race, he was so calm and he wasn't blowing" and when you see how easily he destroyed these horses, it isn't one of those deceiving efforts. They got what you expect and more from a AP Indy out of a mare that placed 10x in grade 1's and grade 2's.

Danzig 07-29-2006 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by boldruler
You don't need to know the time. It was that impressive.

after seeing the question, and this answer, i checked out todays charts. one other race, the third, was run at the same distance(he'sanoldsalt won, corinthian was third). and they ran about the same time, 1:50:26. bernardini was 1:50:50. now i do think that our future HOY should have been able to beat saltys time. but i could be wrong.

Danzig 07-29-2006 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by boldruler
Trust me, this might be the best horse in decades. When a jockey says "After the race, he was so calm and he wasn't blowing" and when you see how easily he destroyed these horses, it isn't one of those deceiving efforts. They got what you expect and more from a AP Indy out of a mare that placed 10x in grade 1's and grade 2's.

dont all winning jocks talk about how their horse wasn't even blowing?

boldruler 07-29-2006 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
dont all winning jocks talk about how their horse wasn't even blowing?

Well it would be hard to think he was blowing considering he looked like he was out for a stroll in the park.

Danzig 07-29-2006 06:40 PM

he sure did....he shouldn't be tired tho, what was that, his third start this year? it's a shame that some of these horses have their races spaced so far apart. and now he'll finally get a taste of 10f in a few weeks, altho with his pedigree i doubt it'll be a problem.

ezrabrooks 07-29-2006 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
after seeing the question, and this answer, i checked out todays charts. one other race, the third, was run at the same distance(he'sanoldsalt won, corinthian was third). and they ran about the same time, 1:50:26. bernardini was 1:50:50. now i do think that our future HOY should have been able to beat saltys time. but i could be wrong.

He was well in hand..and on cruise.. But, your point is well taken. A really nice horse, but this was a pretty weak field, so let's just wait and see.

Ez

Danzig 07-29-2006 06:42 PM

i still don't think the field was weak. god knows we've seen weaker. now some are lightly raced, with some only having two races under their belts before today....but bernardini is lightly raced as well. he was certainly head and shoulders over these guys today.
sunriver has now struggled twice over an off track, i doubt they run him over such in the future.

boldruler 07-29-2006 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
after seeing the question, and this answer, i checked out todays charts. one other race, the third, was run at the same distance(he'sanoldsalt won, corinthian was third). and they ran about the same time, 1:50:26. bernardini was 1:50:50. now i do think that our future HOY should have been able to beat saltys time. but i could be wrong.

Time meant nothing in that race. It was literally a workout for him. There was zero effort made by him.

Danzig 07-29-2006 06:44 PM

lol....

sure. of course had his time been a bit faster than hesanoldsalt rather than a bit slower, you'd have been posting that for all to see.

boldruler 07-29-2006 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
lol....

sure. of course had his time been a bit faster than hesanoldsalt rather than a bit slower, you'd have been posting that for all to see.

How can time mean anything when you win by 9 in a jog. There was no effort made by the horse. If he didn't already have a huge number under his belt I could see arguing it, but an AP Indy is only going to get better as the year goes on. They all do.


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