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the_fat_man 08-24-2008 01:28 PM

The ever INNOVATIVE Kent D
 
Kent always does things his own way and he's always forging new 'trends' in riding. His newest is the WIDE trip on the pacesetter (especially on the turf). This is where rather than keeping the horse as close as possible to the rail, he has it WIDE. Now, this has caught on nicely with the rest of the idiots, and Prado and Johnny V (who shits his pants at the thought of actually going INSIDE a horse) are also starting to use it. Of course, when others use it, they try to get to the rail by the turn. Kent doesn't care: he stays WIDE through the turn and the stretch. **** saving ground.

Example: today's 3rd on Jazz Nation. Kent's in the 4 path and Johnny V is to his outside. :zz:

I mean, in a way I can understand how he wants to take some of the advantage away from the drafters; but the cost is just not worth it, as it completely wrecks races.

skippy3481 08-24-2008 01:32 PM

horse is going cost me a nice pick 4.... and 4 wide is generous....

Indian Charlie 08-24-2008 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Kent always does things his own way and he's always forging new 'trends' in riding. His newest is the WIDE trip on the pacesetter (especially on the turf). This is where rather than keeping the horse as close as possible to the rail, he has it WIDE. Now, this has caught on nicely with the rest of the idiots, and Prado and Johnny V (who shits his pants at the thought of actually going INSIDE a horse) are also starting to use it. Of course, when others use it, they try to get to the rail by the turn. Kent doesn't care: he stays WIDE through the turn and the stretch. **** saving ground.

Example: today's 3rd on Jazz Nation. Kent's in the 4 path and Johnny V is to his outside. :zz:

I mean, in a way I can understand how he wants to take some of the advantage away from the drafters; but the cost is just not worth it, as it completely wrecks races.


Kent is easily one of the ten stupidest human beings I've ever heard speak.

sdjcom 08-24-2008 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Kent is easily one of the ten stupidest human beings I've ever heard speak.


I guess you have to be stupid to win 5,000 races. the outside turf must be the best today , other good jocks are steering that way to .

Indian Charlie 08-24-2008 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sdjcom
I guess you have to be stupid to win 5,000 races. the outside turf must be the best today , other good jocks are steering that way to .

I guess you have to be brilliant to win a Super Bowl, NBA championship, tennis championship, walking marathon, World Series, bowling championship, sing a top 10 smash hit, swim in a straight line, hit an exacta, use a cell phone, drive a car, repair a car, or post a message on an Internet message board!

Gosh, I guess your logic is so infallible, that I must be wrong about Kent! I'm going to nominate him for some award that honors his keen intellect. Perhaps, just perhaps, if we are lucky, he can thank God for the award.

Handicappy 08-24-2008 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sdjcom
I guess you have to be stupid to win 5,000 races. the outside turf must be the best today , other good jocks are steering that way to .

He is a nasty, ego maniacal ass. He cares little for the horses he is on. It is all about himself. How else do you explain his statement when asked about the greatest disappointment in his career. The interviewer asks him about missing the triple crown on Real Quiet and whether that was the biggest disappointment in his career. He says No. That losing the riding title last year at Saratoga was his biggest disappointment. Hello? And how about after every race. If the horse loses, he pulls the horse up short and comes back quickly, I assume to get back to the Jock's room faster. But if he wins, he gallops out his horse so that he has this nice little ceremony from himself. He is a symbol of much that is wrong with the sport. he has been riding terribly since his Belmont mess.

Indian Charlie 08-24-2008 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Handicappy
He is a nasty, ego maniacal ass. He cares little for the horses he is on. It is all about himself. How else do you explain his statement when asked about the greatest disappointment in his career. The interviewer asks him about missing the triple crown on Real Quiet and whether that was the biggest disappointment in his career. He says No. That losing the riding title last year at Saratoga was his biggest disappointment. Hello? And how about after every race. If the horse loses, he pulls the horse up short and comes back quickly, I assume to get back to the Jock's room faster. But if he wins, he gallops out his horse so that he has this nice little ceremony from himself. He is a symbol of much that is wrong with the sport. he has been riding terribly since his Belmont mess.

At least he's a genius though.

DogsUp 08-24-2008 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Kent is easily one of the ten stupidest human beings I've ever heard speak.

When did "stupidest" become a word?

Indian Charlie 08-25-2008 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DogsUp
When did "stupidest" become a word?

Is this a trivia question?

I'm going with April 17, 1971.

DogsUp 08-25-2008 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Is this a trivia question?

I'm going with April 17, 1971.

More like a rhetorical question. I am sure that Kent knows that "stupidest" is not a word. Then again, I could be wrong.

Indian Charlie 08-25-2008 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DogsUp
More like a rhetorical question. I am sure that Kent knows that "stupidest" is not a word. Then again, I could be wrong.

You are wrong.

It is a word.

Kent is a tard, I doubt his vocabulary is as large as even yours.

I'm sticking with your birthday as the trivia answer.

Danzig 08-25-2008 06:47 AM

stu·pid ( P ) Pronunciation Key (stpd, sty-)
adj. stu·pid·er, stu·pid·est

1.Slow to learn or understand; obtuse.
2.Tending to make poor decisions or careless mistakes.
3.Marked by a lack of intelligence or care; foolish or careless: a stupid mistake.
4.Dazed, stunned, or stupefied.
5.Pointless; worthless: a stupid job

dalakhani 08-25-2008 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Handicappy
He is a nasty, ego maniacal ass. He cares little for the horses he is on. It is all about himself. How else do you explain his statement when asked about the greatest disappointment in his career. The interviewer asks him about missing the triple crown on Real Quiet and whether that was the biggest disappointment in his career. He says No. That losing the riding title last year at Saratoga was his biggest disappointment. Hello? And how about after every race. If the horse loses, he pulls the horse up short and comes back quickly, I assume to get back to the Jock's room faster. But if he wins, he gallops out his horse so that he has this nice little ceremony from himself. He is a symbol of much that is wrong with the sport. he has been riding terribly since his Belmont mess.


A wee bit dramatic arent we? He's a friggin jockey not the head of CDI. All he does is ride the horses around the track and you are calling him a symbol of something.

VOL JACK 08-25-2008 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Kent is easily one of the ten stupidest human beings I've ever heard speak.

Thats why he fits in so well with the Big Brown camp.

pgiaco 08-25-2008 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
A wee bit dramatic arent we? He's a friggin jockey not the head of CDI. All he does is ride the horses around the track and you are calling him a symbol of something.

He is supposed to do a lot more than "ride the horse around the track" The time and money spent to get a horse ready to run deserves a lot more than some half assed, pin headed effort that Kent often provides. He is trusted to give his best effort, which sometimes he CLEARLY does not, and is on a horse (especially a young horse) to give him or her a racing education. It is also his job to provide feedback to the horse's connections into what the animal did right or wrong in the race which he often is not interested in doing.

dalakhani 08-25-2008 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pgiaco
He is supposed to do a lot more than "ride the horse around the track" The time and money spent to get a horse ready to run deserves a lot more than some half assed, pin headed effort that Kent often provides. He is trusted to give his best effort, which sometimes he CLEARLY does not, and is on a horse (especially a young horse) to give him or her a racing education. It is also his job to provide feedback to the horse's connections into what the animal did right or wrong in the race which he often is not interested in doing.

Obviously his job is to do a little more than ride the horses around the track although how much more is debatable. That wasnt my point.

My point was that his impact or any jockey's impact is truly overrated in regards to an individual race and completely overrated if one is to say that Kent D is "a symbol of much that is wrong in the game today".

Kent not following instructions, riding out to the wire or providing feedback really has no impact on the game as a whole. If kent's performance is that bad, trainers wont ride him any longer and the show will go on.

pgiaco 08-25-2008 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Obviously his job is to do a little more than ride the horses around the track although how much more is debatable. That wasnt my point.

My point was that his impact or any jockey's impact is truly overrated in regards to an individual race and completely overrated if one is to say that Kent D is "a symbol of much that is wrong in the game today".

Kent not following instructions, riding out to the wire or providing feedback really has no impact on the game as a whole. If kent's performance is that bad, trainers wont ride him any longer and the show will go on.

Riding out to the wire becomes pretty important when you have him in a triple or super and he wraps up and gets beat.

dalakhani 08-25-2008 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pgiaco
Riding out to the wire becomes pretty important when you have him in a triple or super and he wraps up and gets beat.

Im well aware of kent's problems with riding out to the wire and how far that goes back which is way back into the early 90's. Im also aware of ramifications of the super and triple bets. Again, this has nothing to do with my original point.

Kent or any other jockey's impact on the game/sport/industry of horse racing is extremely tiny. He is not a symbol of anything in my opinion. He is a jockey that is extremely skilled and puts in rides that are at times brilliant and at other times baffling.

Indian Charlie 08-25-2008 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Im well aware of kent's problems with riding out to the wire and how far that goes back which is way back into the early 90's. Im also aware of ramifications of the super and triple bets. Again, this has nothing to do with my original point.

Kent or any other jockey's impact on the game/sport/industry of horse racing is extremely tiny. He is not a symbol of anything in my opinion. He is a jockey that is extremely skilled and puts in rides that are at times brilliant and at other times baffling.

He seems to have great instincts for riding but has a brain the size of a walnut.

Meaning if he thinks about his ride, he'll do something stupid, hence the baffling rides.

hoovesupsideyourhead 08-25-2008 02:32 PM

hes not right as of late..after he made all that money in the tc hes not riding very well...mott about to comit suicide..needs to dump him and use garcia or corny again........


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