horse "relations"
 

something's been bothering me about people saying:
well I'm sure the retired horse will enjoy his new career at stud
many of you are probably kidding, I know
but just wanted to clarify, horses do not get any pleasure
from engaging in sexual intercourse
only two species experience pleasure from sex
and they are the human & the dolphin
(with the exception of those humans and/or dolphins
having sex with me :( )

i thought only humans and pigs had orgasms? i'm sure there's a joke there somewhere....


i don't really think anyone means that a horse actually enjoys it, but i'm sure everyone is hoping the horses do well, so they can live the life of reilly, whoever he is.

You mean Rakti isn't having fun??? I'm gonna go cry.

Note to self - discuss the whole dolphin scenerio with MRB.:p

Ha Ha!!!
You need to find out why they're called sperm whales.

And about hogs (pigs)...my brother's sow, Virginia...last name Ham, looked forward to her dates with Sonny...a nice Hampshire boar.
Sonny's owner, Slim, would drive over in his '88 Olds convertible. The look on Sonny's face as he looked over the windshield from the passenger seat, feet on the dashboard...well, you could just tell he was as excited about Virginia as she was about him.
Talk about makin' bacon!!!!

Now, about horses...
I think it's pretty good, unless you're a teaser. I should tell you the story about Ol' Blue Balls...
next time.

Ha ha..... tell us more about the mad escapades of the star-crossed lovers.

Bellamy, you're right in that we don't really know what horses think or feel, but I'm willing to be sex probably feels good-- have you ever seen videos of the bonobo apes? Freakin' monkey pornography. And we thought we invented oral sex? Ha. Damn apes beat us to it. Humans and dolphins are NOT the only animals to engage in sex for pleasure. The bonobos use it for greetings, goodbyes, conflict resolution, you name it, they have sex for it. Boy-girl, girl-girl, boy-boy-- s'all good if you're a bonobo.

Needless to say, in zoos they are not very popular exhibits with the families with young kids...

I doubt horses bond emotionally over sex, though. I think that's for primates. Though during breeding season, Gus, the polar bear at the Central Park Zoo does seem to like to cuddle with the girl bear, Ida, afterwards...

Wow Genuine!
Now if I was a Buddhist, I'd definitely want to come back as a bonobo!
The heck with hoping to be a walrus!

It would only make sense that sex and pleasure work together. I mean if it hurt like hell at all times, you would not participate. And if you did not participate, and your perception of the act via your nervous system said damn that hurts and this particular perception was genetic... Well ya just would not make offspring. And if you went thru the painful act because it was pleasurable for another individual... well your offspring might inherit the "pain gene"... and they might be less likely to engage... and on.

So it makes perfect sense that some sort of reward (other than offspring which are not instantaneous products) would come along with the act from an evolutionary point of view.

This is what I tell my wife anyway.

Come to think of it, maybe I should shut up. Strike the above.
Leave the logic part out of it and just go at it.

how the F does anyone or anything NOT ENJOY SEX?!?!?!?

I could understand a virgin like myself, that has never experienced any kind of sexual activity, would be subjected to this not enjoying sex phenomonan. But, for those of you that are "loose" and tend to share your body parts with people of the opposite sex....

ahh...never mind...no one believe me anyways

First off.... oh my.

Second off, the zoophile writer needs to do a bit more animal, ahem, research. There are many, many animals that have sex for reasons other than procreation-- for example, homosexuality is very, very common in the animal kingdom (and more so in the wild than in zoos, go figure) and I figure the 2 male tortoises I saw going at it some years ago weren't trying to reproduce.

DTS, I think we'd all like to bonobos in a future life! Though keep in mind-- it's a matriarchial society. The girls run everything. And it's a very peaceful society and they have sex all day long. Take from that what you will... ;)

They do get pleasure though from eating and being out of a stall more than 1hr a day. I don't know if anyone can say horses or any animals don't get pleasure. There is no real way of knowing. I suspect all animals do though simply because you have to ask yourself why they would do it at all if there wasn't some enjoyment.

Bellamy,
I just read that article.
Let me tell you, I was scared of swimming in the ocean because of sharks...
but now...no way!! Amourous dolphins that let you know when they want to have pleasure...sneakin' up behind ya in the waves....
If anybody is looking for me...just point toward the pool. >>>>>>>

And what about preying mantids? The female bites off the males head during the act...
now, I've heard about males losing their heads over females but never took it literally.

The female bites off the males head during the act...?
My wife does it any chance she gets !

Hey, no judgments on the female-- she has to bite his head off or he won't ejaculate. And I mean, come on, a girl has got to get some sleep...

(That's true, by the way, about the ejaculating. Aren't you all just SO lucky to have a zoo nerd on this board?)

LMAO! You're too funny DTS
I'm with ya buddy
if I was at Del Mar
horses during the day, dolphins at night;)

And may I say, BellamyRd, that I am hereby nominating this thread for BEST THREAD EVER CREATED.

Actually there is a way to conjecture. There are clearly parts of the mammalian brain that are pain, pleasure centers. And neurotransmitters associated with them. You could lite em up in an imager just like they do with humans when asking them to write or listen to the spoken word to find which part of the brains respond most heavily.

Wow...Mrs 31length Mantid...

Now, honey bees are a whole different story. The drones (males) get to follow the virgin queen on her one and only flight outside the hive. She flies as high as she can. Only the stongest drone gets to mate in the "love ballet" in the clouds. Then all the drones return to the hive to live the good life all summer long....drinking nectar, eating honey, and watching baseball games on their tiny televisions. Then when the first frost comes, the workers (females) kick their lazy asses out of the hive. They put guards at the hive entrance to sting the drones that try to get back inside to watch the fall football games. If they don't get stung, they freeze their little bunzollas off.