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NoChanceToDance 08-16-2008 07:13 AM

Duke Of Marmalade vs New Approach.... it's on
 
From Racing Post....

New Approach will run in Juddmonte International

Tony O'Hehir




YORK is set to stage the race of the season on Tuesday after Voadfone Derby victor New Approach(right) was given the green light to tackle multiple Group 1 winner Duke Of Marmalade in the Juddmonte International.

The two Irish superstars will go head to head in the Ebor meeting's showpiece event after New Approach's trainer Jim Bolger and ownerPrincess Haya decided to pitch in the Epsom hero against Ballydoyle's King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes winner.
Bolger told the Racing Post: “Following discussions between myself and the owners, we have decided that New Approach will run in the International. We have no real concerns should the ground ride soft.”

However, Bolger added that Lush Lashes will not run in Thursday's Darley Yorkshire Oaks if the ground is soft.


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I seriously believe that over ten furlongs on good ground (which it is almost certain to be at York) New Approach will be just too good for Duke Of Marmalade, especially with the weight allowance he gets from The Duke.

New Approach is yet to run over this ten furlong distance but it looks like this will be his best distance, after not having the speed to cope with Henry in the closing stages of a mile and although winning the Derby over twelve furlongs he didn't look like he really enjoyed that distance.

At about 9/2, he is a massive bet.

brockguy 08-16-2008 08:50 AM

tough to bet him coming off a setback like his but I REALLY hope he wins it..

NoChanceToDance 08-16-2008 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy
tough to bet him coming off a setback like his but I REALLY hope he wins it..


I'm not fan of Jim Bolger after how he has treated punters in the last year or so, but thing I do know about him, he wouldn't be even contemplating running the horse if he wasn't 110%. You know what he's like, being so picky about where he sends his horses.

New Approach runs well fresh, as we know.

my miss storm cat 08-16-2008 09:48 AM

Is Linngari in or out?

NoChanceToDance 08-16-2008 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Is Linngari in or out?

Here were are talking about two stars of the current equine world, and you wanna know if Linngari is in............. :rolleyes:


:p

my miss storm cat 08-16-2008 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
Here were are talking about two stars of the current equine world, and you wanna know if Linngari is in............. :rolleyes:


:p

I love Linngari!!!

He's got more frequent flyer miles than, well... you think of someone. :D

Damned right I wanna know if he's running. :p

NoChanceToDance 08-16-2008 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
I love Linngari!!!

He's got more frequent flyer miles than, well... you think of someone. :D

Damned right I wanna know if he's running. :p

We won't know for sure if he will be running until tomorrow when final entries are made.

my miss storm cat 08-16-2008 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
We won't know for sure if he will be running until tomorrow when final entries are made.

Okay thanks. :)

(Go Linngari, Go!) :p

NoChanceToDance 08-16-2008 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Okay thanks. :)

(Go Linngari, Go!) :p

I hope Sir Michael sends him up to York tomorrow, because he'll need to start two days before the others to make the first three :p

If he doesn't have to get on a plane, he won't want to know.

my miss storm cat 08-16-2008 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
I hope Sir Michael sends him up to York tomorrow, because he'll need to start two days before the others to make the first three :p

:eek: :D

You're terrible!

He is fearless, damnit. There should be an award for bravery in his honor.

Linngari and Oracle West both..... two of my favorite globetrotters.

Gotta love the boys who try to beat the monsters.:)

NoChanceToDance 08-16-2008 10:38 AM

Linngari,

You are the weakest link............ GOODBYE :p :D

my miss storm cat 08-16-2008 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
Linngari,

You are the weakest link............ GOODBYE :p :D

NOOOOOO!

Look at this face!

http://www.sahorseracing.com/trainer...asp?pg=5&id=12

You do know that he just won the GOUUP 1 Grosser Dallmayr-Preis Bayerisches Zuchtrennen in Munich a couple of weeks ago, right?

He's a warrior. :{>: :tro:

NoChanceToDance 08-16-2008 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
NOOOOOO!

Look at this face!

http://www.sahorseracing.com/trainer...asp?pg=5&id=12

You do know that he just won the GOUUP 1 Grosser Dallmayr-Preis Bayerisches Zuchtrennen in Munich a couple of weeks ago, right?

He's a warrior. :{>: :tro:

That's German for the Munich donkey derby, don't ya know :D :p

my miss storm cat 08-16-2008 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
That's German for the Munich donkey derby, don't ya know :D :p

Oh yeah???

Well look at this.

From DRF...

New Approach, Duke of Marmalade Likely to Scratch
(apologies to) ALAN SHUBACK


The Group 1, $978,000 Juddmonte International Stakes at York on Tuesday was to feature a scintillating clash of the generations with both 3-year-old Epsom Derby winner New Approach and 4-year-old King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes winner Duke of Marmalade.

Trained by Jim Bolger, New Approach had been absent since his half-length victory in the Epsom classic on June 7.

In Duke of Marmalade he would have been facing the winner of four Group 1 races this year.

All plans were put on hold by both camps with the shock announcement early today that dual G1 winner Linngari is a possible runner.

"Why enter when we'd be running for second or third?", a deflated Bolger somberly replied.

Aidan O'Brien was unavailable for comment.

:p

NoChanceToDance 08-17-2008 10:04 AM

You keep dreaming.

However, with the amount of rain they had at York last night, it wouldn't surprise me to see all three of them taken out. The ground is heavy there right now.

At this rate, Michael Phelps should be favourite

NoChanceToDance 08-17-2008 10:29 AM

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Frankie on Linngari


hahahahahahahahahahaha

my miss storm cat 08-17-2008 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Frankie on Linngari


hahahahahahahahahahaha

C'mon, no way.

You ARE kidding, right?

Please tell me Ryan has the mount...

my miss storm cat 08-17-2008 11:35 AM

:zz:

Tuesday August 19 2008
York 15:25

Juddmonte International Stakes (group 1)£550000.00 added, 3yo plus, 1m 2f 88y, Class 1, £312235.00 penalty 11 runnersGoing: Soft, Good to Soft in places


Colours: Show Hide 13:45 14:15 14:50 15:25 16:05 16:40
No. Form Horse Age Wt Trainer Jockey OR NagMe Bet
1 (10) 141085 Championship Point (IRE) 10 5 9-5 M R Channon D Holland 109 SP SP SP
2 (5) 23-1111 Duke Of Marmalade (IRE) 24 4 9-5 A P O'Brien J Murtagh 127 SP SP SP
3 (6) 074504 Halicarnassus (IRE) 24 4 9-5 M R Channon S Hitchcott 110 SP SP SP
4 (8) 1-14001 Linngari (IRE) 23 6 9-5 Sir Michael Stoute L Dettori 119 SP SP SP
5 (9) 449271 Multidimensional (IRE) 10 5 9-5 H R A Cecil T P Queally 118 SP SP SP
6 (1) 11-1222 Phoenix Tower (USA) 45 4 9-5 H R A Cecil T E Durcan 117 SP SP SP
7 (11) 1-33331 Pipedreamer 24 4 9-5 J H M Gosden J Fortune 117 SP SP SP
8 (4) 223-304 Red Rock Canyon (IRE) 24 4 9-5 A P O'Brien J A Heffernan 115 SP SP SP
9 (3) 55/3-295 Rob Roy (USA) 45 6 9-5 Sir Michael Stoute R L Moore 113 SP SP SP
10 (7) 111-221 New Approach (IRE) 73 3 8-11 J S Bolger K J Manning 126 SP SP SP
11 (2) 13-5336 Stubbs Art (IRE) 63 3 8-11 D R C Elsworth J P Spencer 112 SP SP SP

NoChanceToDance 08-17-2008 03:39 PM

It says it all when Ryan has chosen to ride Rob Roy over Linngari. :D

my miss storm cat 08-18-2008 10:40 AM

Linngari now doubtful. Happy? :confused: :(

All he gets is a single sentence on RP and no picture. Bastards.:D

I like Stubbs..... no reason why he couldn't be 3rd here.

Looks like the Duke will run...

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/n...Nightlead.html


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