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2MinsToPost 08-07-2008 07:29 PM

How Many Of You Wager Online?
 
I have not placed a wager online in close to a year and am two seconds away from closing my accounts for good. However, I live in an area that provides simulcast, live racing etc etc..

I just don't care for the online wagering experience and it boils down to this -

Nothing can replace the feel of cash being transferred to your hand on spot.

I have found that when wagering online it is too easy to pull the trigger by pressing keystrokes versus pulling out my wallet.

-BT- 08-07-2008 07:59 PM

I respect you opinion and know where you’re coming from, but I feel the exact opposite. While you are right, it is harder to pull the trigger on things when you passing money to a teller rather then using a mouse, and at times the atmosphere is great at the track. But I live almost an hour from a racetrack and planning out my trips there is an ordeal since I live in the Washington metro area (the traffic is awful). The comfort of playing at my house, being able to cut bake and leave at the drop of a hat if something better comes up or just the convenience of still being home and able to get sh!t done around the house.

I’m almost the opposite of you, I haven’t been to track in almost a year, and wager primarily on the weekends (if that) through my online accounts. I do still manage to get out to the track on big days, but I see no need to head out there every time I wanna make a wager. Honestly I get board at the track, people annoy me easily and I can’t stand the chatter at times so I just end up listening to my i-pod in between races to pass the time, but that’s just me.

-bt-

mes5107 08-07-2008 08:17 PM

I live about 10 min from a racebook at a local casino, but I rarely bet there. I prefer the convenience of betting at home. Don't get me wrong, nothing beats going to the track and watching live racing, but the closest T-bred track is Suffolk which is approx 1.5-2 hrs away, depending on traffic. There's a lot to be said about the OTB experience as well with the comaraderie you build with some of the strangest characters you'll meet.

However, with betting at home I can wager at 0 or 1 MTP to see my true odds. Exacta and DD probables are readily available. I can read derbytrail. Cook dinner. blah blah blah

mclem0822 08-07-2008 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by -BT-
I respect you opinion and know where you’re coming from, but I feel the exact opposite. While you are right, it is harder to pull the trigger on things when you passing money to a teller rather then using a mouse, and at times the atmosphere is great at the track. But I live almost an hour from a racetrack and planning out my trips there is an ordeal since I live in the Washington metro area (the traffic is awful). The comfort of playing at my house, being able to cut bake and leave at the drop of a hat if something better comes up or just the convenience of still being home and able to get sh!t done around the house.

I’m almost the opposite of you, I haven’t been to track in almost a year, and wager primarily on the weekends (if that) through my online accounts. I do still manage to get out to the track on big days, but I see no need to head out there every time I wanna make a wager. Honestly I get board at the track, people annoy me easily and I can’t stand the chatter at times so I just end up listening to my i-pod in between races to pass the time, but that’s just me.

-bt-

Man BT you make some good points, especially the part about people getting annoying at the track. I do enjoy going on big days more than most, tons of people gathered around watching the triple crown races is very exciting. But over the past 6 months or maybe even longer I've made very few wagers in person, but rather I've been using 2 accounts online. I guess I fall into the category of liking both, but for now it's mostly online for my wagers, and a pop in and out of the OTB for a racing form.

ddthetide 08-07-2008 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -BT-
I respect you opinion and know where you’re coming from, but I feel the exact opposite. While you are right, it is harder to pull the trigger on things when you passing money to a teller rather then using a mouse, and at times the atmosphere is great at the track. But I live almost an hour from a racetrack and planning out my trips there is an ordeal since I live in the Washington metro area (the traffic is awful). The comfort of playing at my house, being able to cut bake and leave at the drop of a hat if something better comes up or just the convenience of still being home and able to get sh!t done around the house.

I’m almost the opposite of you, I haven’t been to track in almost a year, and wager primarily on the weekends (if that) through my online accounts. I do still manage to get out to the track on big days, but I see no need to head out there every time I wanna make a wager. Honestly I get board at the track, people annoy me easily and I can’t stand the chatter at times so I just end up listening to my i-pod in between races to pass the time, but that’s just me.

-bt-

excellent post BT. i'm in the same position with most of your post.

ALostTexan 08-07-2008 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost
I have not placed a wager online in close to a year and am two seconds away from closing my accounts for good. However, I live in an area that provides simulcast, live racing etc etc..

Have they started the new simulcasting rules there, where it is only at the facility offering live racing, then transfers to the other when it is dark? I know that was the plan, but have they started it yet, and how is it working if they have?

I cannot wager online in Arizona, a constant thorn in my side, which is just another reason I want to be back in the Buckeye state, and will eventually. I also cannot wager on harness or quarterhorse races, which pisses me off, and no horse wagering after 7:00 p.m., plus during the day I can only bet on a select few tracks, so I have to hope they are carrying the track I want to bet.

Gotta love Arizona...

docicu3 08-07-2008 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
excellent post BT. i'm in the same position with most of your post.


I agree with both as the buzz of the track and cash in hand for work well done is the best but a Fed Ex check for an online cash is also pretty cool. I am more likely to stay away from the impulse stab when I am forking over dead presidents as opposed to playing with cash in an account.

There is also the advantage of having the wagering house keep track of winnings and loses for tax reasons that gives a small edge to the online gig.

Laurel is unfriendly but Pimlico is life threatening. Delaware Park is surreal at times as the big room is great simulcast.

The track for me is a visit to play simulcast most days which is where this business is going long term I am afraid as besides the big venues with the big races and talent the bulk of on track wagering is on simulcast events where I frequent......sad but true. Maryland racing died.....the only thing left of value are the big days of which there may be 5 a year.

GPK 08-07-2008 08:39 PM

I love the comraderie at the OTB. So many different personalities. There are a couple guys where I hang out that really "know" the sport and appreciate the work that goes into handicapping. There is just something about the atmosphere there that draws me in. I tend to get very bored, very quickly wagering from home.

geeker2 08-07-2008 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost
I have found that when wagering online it is too easy to pull the trigger by pressing keystrokes versus pulling out my wallet.


You need to work much hard on your addiction...you are still at the point that you are controlling it and it is not controlling you...stop the 12 step meeting this will help :D

pointman 08-07-2008 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
I love the comraderie at the OTB. So many different personalities. There are a couple guys where I hang out that really "know" the sport and appreciate the work that goes into handicapping. There is just something about the atmosphere there that draws me in. I tend to get very bored, very quickly wagering from home.

If they lack teeth, I wouldn't put too much stock into their selections.

GPK 08-07-2008 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman
If they lack teeth, I wouldn't put too much stock into their selections.

Only one guy I even remotely listen to there at times, and his nephew is a major trainer on the SoCal circuit. I feel confident in saying there is no one there that puts anywhere near the effort into handicapping that I do. Just had a new guy start hanging out there. He just moved here from Lexington, KY. Couple years younger than me...but seems pretty sharp and loves the game.

MaTH716 08-07-2008 09:06 PM

Most of my wagers are made on-line. I enjoy going to track very much, but with the 2 little ones it is extremely difficult. Also in my situation, the only real time for me to handicap and play all by myself is at night. I love those friday night Hollywood cards. I live in NJ, so I would have to stay at Freehold to 1 in the morning to play that. It is just so much easier and convienent to play from home. Plus I don't have to hear it from the old lady that I am out to all hours of the night.
There are downsides though. Money management is a little more important. You have to make due with what is in your account, so it might be a little difficult to take a stab on a horse that you have a feel early. Because it might affect your bankroll for say a late pick 4. Also if you should win (haven't had that problem lately) not being able to withdraw what you want on the spot. Next thing you know you are playing Mountaineer on a Monday night.

GPK 08-07-2008 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Most of my wagers are made on-line. I enjoy going to track very much, but with the 2 little ones it is extremely difficult. Also in my situation, the only real time for me to handicap and play all by myself is at night. I love those friday night Hollywood cards. I live in NJ, so I would have to stay at Freehold to 1 in the morning to play that. It is just so much easier and convienent to play from home. Plus I don't have to hear it from the old lady that I am out to all hours of the night.
There are downsides though. Money management is a little more important. You have to make due with what is in your account, so it might be a little difficult to take a stab on a horse that you have a feel early. Because it might affect your bankroll for say a late pick 4. Also if you should win (haven't had that problem lately) not being able to withdraw what you want on the spot. Next thing you know you are playing Mountaineer on a Monday night.


You say that like it's a bad thing:)

MaTH716 08-07-2008 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
You say that like it's a bad thing:)

That was my New Years resoulution. No more betting on 5k claimers! I think I lasted for a month.

GPK 08-07-2008 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
That was my New Years resoulution. No more betting on 5k claimers! I think I lasted for a month.


You lasted longer than most then.

AeWingnut 08-07-2008 09:46 PM

I opened an account but continued to hang out with friends at the OTB. I am more than 2 hours away form a track.

They closed the OTB after the Kentucky Derby this year. I am one of the lucky ones that had an online account before the States Attorney/ mob asked BrisBET - now Twinspires to quit accepting new accounts.

I don't have a problem not betting. I usually wait for the weekends

having an online account makes it easy to catch horses I noticed having a bad trip and try to get my money back on them the next time they run.

One problem I have had is more signers.... :D

not having people around to annoy helps me concentrate

skippy3481 08-07-2008 11:10 PM

Nothing beats the mount.... there is no racing like it... I have a live track 30 minutes from me, but i only go for big days. I don't do ignorant people well and that is the about 99% of the people there. I don't need the old guy thats betting a 2 dollar win ticket payed for in dimes to tell me why he thinks the 45-1 shot that has been scratched for 3 hours is going to win.

hoovesupsideyourhead 08-07-2008 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ALostTexan
Have they started the new simulcasting rules there, where it is only at the facility offering live racing, then transfers to the other when it is dark? I know that was the plan, but have they started it yet, and how is it working if they have?

I cannot wager online in Arizona, a constant thorn in my side, which is just another reason I want to be back in the Buckeye state, and will eventually. I also cannot wager on harness or quarterhorse races, which pisses me off, and no horse wagering after 7:00 p.m., plus during the day I can only bet on a select few tracks, so I have to hope they are carrying the track I want to bet.

Gotta love Arizona...

diamond sports..google it dude

Coach Pants 08-07-2008 11:16 PM

It would be nice to have an OTB in my backyard like pg1985. Lucky bastard.

skippy3481 08-07-2008 11:32 PM

coach you not only would have to have a otb in your backyard but 4.2 speed as well. Of course pg was only jogging...


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