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Visionaire
Can someone explian to me why this horse is 6-1mL in an optional 75k claimer and the favorite is a horse that hasnt been out since Jan. and doesnt look like much? Can anyone see this horse going not going off odd on?
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He's not that good?
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He might be lower than 6-1 ML since people are such fans of TC runners, but not much. I think he goes off at 9/2 or 5-1.
He's a bet against. |
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Not for the reason that I think VIsionaire is some kind of top dog win-contender in this race, but for the reason that the public wants to bet him. Even with the bad line, he should still go off between 5-2 and 4-1 in this race. The linesmaker is never supposed to handicap beyond public opinion. Even worse when he influences public opinion. He isn't supposed to save you guys from yourselves. :) This isn't sportsteam betting where he makes Visionaire 6-1 to encourage more action... As far as his chances? Visionaire will have a tough time sprinting against decent older horses. |
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Does anyone have any love for the 3 Street Magician? |
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I also seemed to agree with most of the people on here too. |
Morning lines are one man's opinion of how he thinks the public will bet. Its made 36 hours prior to post and means nothing. The guys in Vegas who do the point spreads are real good at it. The guys who typically do the ones for horse racing are novices.
I got a real laugh yesterday hanging around with non track goers telling me such and such horse is going off at this price, 4 hours before the race even went off. I tried telling them to ignore the morning lines but they continuously were giving the morning line odds out all day long instead of what was currenlt on the monitors, you know the real odds? |
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It just makes me think two things, either this guy wants a nice price on this horse or he knows something is wrong with him. Id feel a little more comfortable with the race if he was 3-1 or 7/2. But like you said ML are usually guides and I rarely go by them either. |
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On top of all that has already been mentioned, this has been an unusually weak class and you have to figure that will be taken into account. |
with Roi Maudit and Callmetoney out ...
Visionaire ought to get a lot of love from the fans. Still some decent rivals. |
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He's without a win at the distance, but I'll try and get home with the 8 Out of Gwedda. He needed the last.
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Well, 3 key scratches- Roi Maudit, Call Me Tony and Loose Leaf. I think we are missing the 2 who would have been bet the most and Loose Leaf probably would have taken money too based on his win here last year.
I'll take a stab at the odds now... Knights Cross 7/2 Kaper Lake 15/1 Street Magician 9/5 Visionaire 5/2 Temecula Creek 5/1 Out of Gwedda 20/1 |
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I agree that people will go back to the Gotham slop performance. Interesting that Lezcano said after the race that Vis hated the off going and was slipping and sliding early in the race. I guess he just out-classed the great Texas Wildcatter. Also on HRTV today, they said that Matz is pointing Vis to the Kings Bishop. |
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