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boldruler 07-27-2006 01:31 PM

Weak Jim Dandy field
 
These small fields have to stop, but the Ministers Bid-Bernardini showdown should be interesting.

Saratoga - July 29th, 2006 - Race 9
Jim Dandy S. - Grade: 2
Estimated Local Post Time: 5:46 PM
Race Type: Stakes
Breed: Thoroughbred
Age Restriction: Three Year Old
Purse: $500,000
Distance:One And One Eighth Miles
Surface: Dirt
Post Horse Name Age Sex Weight Jockey Name
1 Sunriver (KY) 3 Colt 121 John R. Velazquez
2 Oh So Awesome (KY) 3 Colt 115 Kent J. Desormeaux
3 Bernardini (KY) 3 Colt 123 Javier Castellano
4 Dr. Pleasure (KY) 3 Colt 115 Garrett K. Gomez
5 Hemingway's Key (FL) 3 Colt 115 Julien R. Leparoux
6 Minister's Bid (KY) 3 Colt 115 Edgar S. Prado

Secretariat 07-27-2006 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boldruler
These small fields have to stop, but the Ministers Bid-Bernardini showdown should be interesting.

Saratoga - July 29th, 2006 - Race 9
Jim Dandy S. - Grade: 2
Estimated Local Post Time: 5:46 PM
Race Type: Stakes
Breed: Thoroughbred
Age Restriction: Three Year Old
Purse: $500,000
Distance:One And One Eighth Miles
Surface: Dirt
Post Horse Name Age Sex Weight Jockey Name
1 Sunriver (KY) 3 Colt 121 John R. Velazquez
2 Oh So Awesome (KY) 3 Colt 115 Kent J. Desormeaux
3 Bernardini (KY) 3 Colt 123 Javier Castellano
4 Dr. Pleasure (KY) 3 Colt 115 Garrett K. Gomez
5 Hemingway's Key (FL) 3 Colt 115 Julien R. Leparoux
6 Minister's Bid (KY) 3 Colt 115 Edgar S. Prado

sunriver with JV/pletcher at toga not easy..
Gomez on Dr. Pleasure should be interesting as well.

this is a good card for saturday.
dam, they have more action out there in three days than we have all summer.

boldruler 07-27-2006 01:42 PM

Two horse race and that is if Ministers Bid has figured out how to race. None of the others are anything special, especially that overrated Sunriver.

Buffymommy 07-27-2006 01:43 PM

Bernardini/Sunriver ex box. But then again I suck lately so take it for what it is worth! :)

tycharles01 07-27-2006 01:48 PM

Small Field YES

But not a bad one at all!!! Any of these horse could win if Bernardini does not fire

Could be a nice betting race- No 20/1 but some decent prices especially if the public gets happy on Sunriver and Bernardini

eurobounce 07-27-2006 01:50 PM

I think it is a great field. It is restricted to 3 year olds so you are naturally going to have a small field. Coupled with the Haskell so close and then horses in Cali are going to stay in Cali you dont have much to choose from. But this is a great field. I say Bernardini gets beat in this race.

Pointg5 07-27-2006 01:54 PM

Bernardini
Ministers Bid
Sun River

The rest are slow....

boldruler 07-27-2006 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tycharles01
Small Field YES

But not a bad one at all!!! Any of these horse could win if Bernardini does not fire

Could be a nice betting race- No 20/1 but some decent prices especially if the public gets happy on Sunriver and Bernardini

Yeah, it really isn't weak, just small. I think the Diana is probably the better race. This race has the potential to be another blowout. Let's just hope we don't get another Noble Causeway type scratch at the gate.

The Travers should be an incredible race if a horse like Ministers Bid steps it up here. If not, we could have a 5 horse Travers.

tycharles01 07-27-2006 02:08 PM

Just looked at whole Card, Looks Great Fun Card

a Nice 2yr old race (Pegasus Wind, Bullara, Piggott)

Corinthian back against Reverberate,Hesanoldsalt

Diana is a WOW Race (Angara,Wend,Lady of Venice)

Scav 07-27-2006 02:19 PM

Starting to think that Seattle and Bold are lovers, flair for the dramatic.

This is far from a two horse race and it is extremely possible that Bernandi runs 3rd in this race. Both of Ward's horses are long on breeding, long on talent, short on experience, Oh So Awesome took action in the Belmont and is suppose to be a monster, Hemingway ran a good race in the Preakness.

boldruler 07-27-2006 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tycharles01
Just looked at whole Card, Looks Great Fun Card

a Nice 2yr old race (Pegasus Wind, Bullara, Piggott)

Corinthian back against Reverberate,Hesanoldsalt

Diana is a WOW Race (Angara,Wend,Lady of Venice)

The Diana is clearly the race of the day. Awesome field.

Downthestretch55 07-27-2006 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boldruler
Yeah, it really isn't weak, just small. I think the Diana is probably the better race. This race has the potential to be another blowout. Let's just hope we don't get another Noble Causeway type scratch at the gate.

The Travers should be an incredible race if a horse like Ministers Bid steps it up here. If not, we could have a 5 horse Travers.

I'm glad you clarified that about this race being weak.
It's a small field, but so what?
Now watch this...longshot Hemingsways Key comes home for big bucks.
Minister's Bid finishes four lengths back for place.
Bernardini is another two behind for show...and the bridge jumpers are spared their anguish.

boldruler 07-27-2006 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Starting to think that Seattle and Bold are lovers, flair for the dramatic.

This is far from a two horse race and it is extremely possible that Bernandi runs 3rd in this race. Both of Ward's horses are long on breeding, long on talent, short on experience, Oh So Awesome took action in the Belmont and is suppose to be a monster, Hemingway ran a good race in the Preakness.


You are insane. Bernardin is so much more talented than these horses it isn't even funny. Unless Ministers Bid lives up to his billing, this race is a yawn. Bernardini will be geared down at the 1/8th pole.

slotdirt 07-27-2006 02:25 PM

What's wrong with that race? No love for Oh So Awesome?

Downthestretch55 07-27-2006 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boldruler
You are insane. Bernardin is so much more talented than these horses it isn't even funny. Unless Ministers Bid lives up to his billing, this race is a yawn. Bernardini will be geared down at the 1/8th pole.

Now that's exactly the kind of thinking that has humbled more than a few (myself included). Let them pound Bernardini, fine with me...better the odds for HK.

boldruler 07-27-2006 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Now that's exactly the kind of thinking that has humbled more than a few (myself included). Let them pound Bernardini, fine with me...better the odds for HK.

Bernardini will be an all-time great. That coming from a guy who worships Barbaro and told me Bernardini probably is a better horse. He is the goods.

1st_Saturday_in_May 07-27-2006 02:31 PM

Complete order of finish

1. Bernardini
2. Sunriver
3. Minister's Bid
4. Hemingway's Key
5. Dr. Pleasure
6. Oh So Awesome

Pointg5 07-27-2006 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Starting to think that Seattle and Bold are lovers, flair for the dramatic.

This is far from a two horse race and it is extremely possible that Bernandi runs 3rd in this race. Both of Ward's horses are long on breeding, long on talent, short on experience, Oh So Awesome took action in the Belmont and is suppose to be a monster, Hemingway ran a good race in the Preakness.


Huh, what race are you looking at...

Dr. Pleasure is slow, long on breeding, please, that horse has been hyped only to be a pile of dung...

Oh So Awesome, he's weak...

Heming got drilled by Bernardini once and will get it again...

It's really up to Bernardini and we'll see how good Ministers Bid is, I love MB I told all of you back in April that he will win a Graded Stake, but he's no match for Bernardini...

irishtrekker 07-27-2006 02:33 PM

I think Minister's Bid could give Bernardini a run for it, not sure about Sunriver. They're all fresh horses now, and Bernardini did run against BD and SNS when they'd already run the Derby. Don't get me wrong - Bernardini could indeed be something really special, but I want to see one more race before I join the bandwagon. I still have a lot to learn, so please be kind when you jump all over me. :p

Scav 07-27-2006 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boldruler
You are insane. Bernardin is so much more talented than these horses it isn't even funny. Unless Ministers Bid lives up to his billing, this race is a yawn. Bernardini will be geared down at the 1/8th pole.

You are obviously not familiar with the bounce theory. This horse ran HUGE last night. At the 3/5 or 4/5 he is going to be this coming weekend, he is a great play against IMO...when I say HUGE, I MEAN HUGE....I would be willing to say that horses that run as huge as he did fail about 75% to get anywhere near that number again and bounce (regardless of time between races) heavily


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