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kagbr 07-03-2008 09:43 PM

Fasig Tipton catalogues out
 
They are on line for the Kentucky July and Saratoga August yearling sales.
http://fasigtipton.com/

jcs11204 07-03-2008 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kagbr
They are on line for the Kentucky July and Saratoga August yearling sales.
http://fasigtipton.com/

there is a nice rock hard ten, sister to serenas song

sumitas 07-03-2008 11:10 PM

That's hip 53 in the select session, Spa. A colt. Florida bred. Buy him. You can afford it.

jcs11204 07-03-2008 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
That's hip 53 in the select session, Spa. A colt. Florida bred. Buy him. You can afford it.

I WISH I COULD AFFORD A HORSE.
if i could there would be so many sires to choose from

the giant
rock hard ten
vindication
war chant

so many... i think i would want a turf horse though, maybe a dynaformer

sumitas 07-04-2008 06:55 AM

This tip, from the bloodhorse, may help with pedigrees.

"So it is probably best just to remember that Bold Reason is the broodmare sire of Sadler’s Wells, and Bold Reasoning is the sire of Triple Crown winner Seattle Slew, and that Hail to Reason is both the sire of Bold Reason and broodmare sire of Bold Reasoning."

sumitas 07-04-2008 08:41 PM

There are 78 yearlings in the Spa Open book this year. Last year there was 127. Last year the Open was a 1 day event. This year 1 day.

The '08 Select is at 195 head over 2 days. '07 188 head over 2 days.

The '08 Preferred has 226 over 2 days. '07 193 head over 2 days.

freddymo 07-04-2008 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
There are 78 yearlings in the Open book this year. Last year there was almost 127. Last year the Open was a 1 day event. This year 1 day.

The '08 Select is at 195 head over 2 days. '07 188 head over 2 days.

The '08 Preferred has 226 over 2 days. '07 355 head over 2 days.

Bad economy lol

sumitas 07-04-2008 08:59 PM

freddy, sorry...i screwed up the numbers but they are now correct after my editing...MY BAD>

There is a big drop in the Open head for sale this year. 78, down from 127 last year.

sumitas 07-06-2008 06:03 PM

Thoughts ?

parsixfarms 07-06-2008 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
Thoughts ?

There were very few buyers at the "open" sale last year. It was like a ghost town; not a good sale to get a price. NY breeders are probably better off going to Timonium if they can't get their horse in the "preferred" NY-bred sale. Also, the size of the NY foal crops have declined the past few years.

sumitas 07-06-2008 06:30 PM

The Ky July has 7 NY breds.

The Spa Select has 7 NY breds.
The Preferred has 222 NY breds.
The Open has 73 NY breds.

Last Oct Timonium had 132 NY breds out of over 900 head.
Last Dec. Timonium had 48 NY breds out of about 600 head.
Last NYBSC Oct sale had about 190 NY bred head, mostly weanlings.

Cannon Shell 07-06-2008 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
Thoughts ?

The open sale is a debacle. Even a horse sales junkie like me cant find anything to like out of that sale.

Cannon Shell 07-06-2008 06:39 PM

Hip 130 in the July Sale is rumored to be a monster...

Bobby Fischer 07-06-2008 06:46 PM

caught my eye (pedigree not physicality)

Saratoga Select = 40, 53 , 142 ,160? , 171, 188

KY = 57, 71, 127,136, 236?, 339?, 377(turf sprint?), 390, 396,397,513

sumitas 07-06-2008 06:46 PM

Here is the filly's page #130
http://www.fasigtipton.com/catalogs/2008/0714/130.pdf

Traipse has been outcrossed to the 2 Northern Dancers in Medallist. There is a 4dx5sx6d Hail To Reason cross at the top of the linebreeding chart. From the immediate family of Dynaformer and other G1 winners; 3-0-12-1-0 dp; di 1.29; cd 0.31; e nick A, true nick B, gsv 59.18.

This is some paper stuff. Yes the physicals are huge.

paisjpq 07-07-2008 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
Here is the filly's page #130
http://www.fasigtipton.com/catalogs/2008/0714/130.pdf

Traipse has been outcrossed to the 2 Northern Dancers in Medallist. There is a 4dx5sx6d Hail To Reason cross at the top of the linebreeding chart. From the immediate family of Dynaformer and other G1 winners; 3-0-12-1-0 dp; di 1.29; cd 0.31; e nick A, true nick B, gsv 59.18.

This is some paper stuff. Yes the physicals are huge.


I'm curious if you think the breeder made a good mating decision?

sumitas 07-07-2008 07:47 PM

I do. I like the x2 Northern Dancer outcross. Closest up you have the x3 Hail To Reason. They've taken the 2 Nearctics (Northern Dancer's sire) and crossed them with a Nearctic in the dam through the filly Snow Bower, 6sx6sx5d. This Nearctic is a powerful sex balanced cross. There is plenty of support from LaTroienne, Scapa Flow, Selene. You have two reines on the bottom line that produced Dynaformer, etc. . This is a very very good pedigree on paper imo.

Edit: Touch Gold has no Hail To Reason. Maybe that's why they went to Medallist, to get that x3 cross.

Cannon Shell 07-07-2008 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
I do. I like the x2 Northern Dancer outcross. Closest up you have the x3 Hail To Reason. They've taken the 2 Nearctics (Northern Dancer's sire) and crossed them with a Nearctic in the dam through the filly Snow Bower, 6sx6sx5d. This Nearctic is a powerful sex balanced cross. There is plenty of support from LaTroienne, Scapa Flow, Selene. You have two reines on the bottom line that produced Dynaformer, etc. . This is a very very good pedigree on paper imo.

Edit: Touch Gold has no Hail To Reason. Maybe that's why they went to Medallist, to get that x3 cross.

:tro: :tro: :tro:

cowgirlintexas 07-07-2008 10:38 PM

Speaking of Sales.. I got a call today from a friend of mine in France that has come across a filly by Storm Cat out of Roses in Kentucky. She is 3 yrs old.

He wanted to know if I could help him find out 1)what sale she went thru and 2)how much she went for..
Anyone have any references I can go look up? I tried the Fasig-Tipton site, but was hoping I could do a search with a name perhaps..Was also hoping to find something that was'nt so "involved" as to looking at every sale catalog in 2006 or 2007.


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