the big ass carryover at belmont thread
 

happy 4th..

race 4

all 1-8

race 5

2/5/4

race 6

8/2

race 7

7

race 8

5

race 9

3/5..good luck hooves

192.00

good luck ky killer

Leaving out Garcia completely? Looks tough to me in the 5th-8th and part of the 4rth? Think a big day is coming his way.

There's a handicapping angle I hadn't considered.....phuck the horses, Alan Garcia is due for a big day.

I really have to stop wasting my time with all this handicapping nonsense.

I thought it'd be pretty obvious by now (to anyone but the trainer) that 6F is too short and 8F too long for Thunder Minister.

I'm using Straight Romance (with KR) in the 6th.

he is on the 1 in the first leg..lol and opun further review im dumping the weaver horse in favor of the 4

Not to mention that last time was the time for Thunder Minister.

Agree that Straight Romance is very clearly the other horse in the 6th. I just hope Garcia is riding him.....I'll check when I usually do.....as the field is going in the gate.

Weaver is heating up, got win number uno wed.

I'm gonna be pissed if they take down the 9....
 

the winner in a fair race....

I/L

Oh my god....wtf

another BRUTAL call by the NY stewards.,..... hands down the worst in the business

-bt-

That's just really a drag.....
 

if it wasn't coa complaining??? :mad:

Coa knew he was beaten and put on an act.....
 

on the pan shot the 9 is well past him.... damn it...

F*** these a**holes, 3 jumps before the wire. So what it caused the 2 maybe 2nd, big f'n deal. They leave the MSW winner up yesterday (same jocK) same infraction in the 2nd and take this horse down.

the more and more i look at it the more it looks like coa sells it. Coa's horse was not going to be the winner the 11 and 1 were flying late. The stewards should really remove their heads from their ass and actaully wake up


-bt-

In the interest of full parimutuel disclosure, the DQ of Admiral Bird cost me the pic-6 today (and it was compounded by the fact that one of the two others I used in the 5th was Bethpage Black, who missed second by a head). After watching this decision, and the Proud Spell and Les Antiques decisions from the past week, I have no idea what is and what is not a foul in NY racing anymore.

Would like BTW's opinion on this call....
 

but respect he may need keep his thoughts to himself.

really a bogus decision though in a rough and tumble blanket finish, not even close to a DQ event

I/L

It seemed like a fair DQ to me. I guess you could say the driving rain might have been a mitigating factor but he fouled Doc n Roll. I know someone who was DQ'd out of the Pick-6 who feels similarly. He fouled the horse and may have cost it second.

Personally I would rather worry about handicapping than fretting over steward's decisions. It's something people will never agree with.

I wouldn't disagree with you if the stewards would communicate exactly that "because there was a foul here (cue telestrator) and because he cost a horse a placing here (shows on monitor)" The 9 was DQ'd.

There just seems like a complete lack of consistency with the rulings which is made worse only because of the Marcel Marceau communication style.

The Proud Spell DQ raised the ire of many for similar reasons only a week previous. If you don't tell the fans what your ruling on when their pockets are fleeced outrage is the only reaction that makes sense.

You are probably right in your interpretation but many New York horses have done more and been punished less.