Saratoga Wagering Menu Changed (a little bit)
 

New this year will be rolling daily doubles (the wager will be offered pending approval by the New York State Racing and Wagering Board.). :)

I am glad to see this bet added to the menu at the Spa. This made me wonder what bets you find yourself playing the most and why?

For me , I am a big fan of the picks 3 and 4 but from an economic standpoint, the takeout makes the double and exacta better values (17.5%). WPS remain at 14% but I love multi-race wagers.

Actually, because of dispersal, it is relatively the same to bet a double at 17.5% as it is to bet a Pick-3 at 25%. The Pick-4, at 25%, is the best of the three choices.

Im still trying to show a profit with my win bets.

Very good way to see who is going to take action the next race, at least it is at CD. i.e the R Nicks firster today. Took tons of action in the DD they came on the board at 1-1 and stayed there until the Assmu took all the late $$, the Nicks ended up paying $8.40

Was going to say that as well. The Pick 4 and Pick 6 are actually the best value in terms of takeout in multi-race wagers.

ok this might sound crazy, and maybe its not even the place to ask this, but i have a question !

the guy above said he is still trying to have a positive return on his win bets, depending on how you look at it, cant you actually make more money and have a better ROI, playing pick 3 and 4 then you would have, by making just win bets. when you make a win bet you bet 1 horse, when you play pick 3 and 4, you can go as many deep as you wish, therefore isen't it almost easier to cash a pick 3 or 4 ?

Im honored you refer to me now as "the guy above".
I read in one of DRF books that Andy is in, 'if you cant make a profit betting to win you are gonna have a hard time making money in exotics.' I think it was six secrets of successful bettors/
I think it boils down to betting too many races, being a once-twice a week guy without an internet acct. I'll usually play 90% of the races at Bel and CD, such as today.

im sorry JACK, but i disagree, i seem to struggle when it comes to picking 1 horse to win a race, but i can put in a 2-2-2 pick 3 and do well, or a 3-3-2-2 pick 4 and hit for almost 10k, and a lot of ppl would not even consider that going deep, so its not like you can say im just tossing any or all horses in, i used to go to the track or otb and only make win/place bets, now 95% of my bets are pick 3 and 4

Thats the fun thing about the game I guess, there are many ways make a score. However, I disagree with your approach but if you are cashing for ten k, carry-on.

would you ever bet more then 1 horse to win in a race ?

Very rarely will I 'dutch' a race. I have bet 80 to win on my top choice at say 5-1, then maybe put 20 on a bomb that I like. The last time I remember doing that was haskell day at Mon park last year, when they ran 1-2 for a sweet exacta.

see, i would never ever consider betting 2 horses to win, i would feel like i was betting against myself....also you cant make money betting 1-1 or 4-5 shots to win, but keying in a pick 3 or 4 and catching a price with it, you then can make money

I dont usually bet odds-on horses, but I hate passing up a win bet on a horse I really like and miss in a leg where I didnt have as strong of an opinion.

How is that different than using 2-3 horses in a leg of a horizontal wager? You are, to quote you, technically "betting against yourself" if you dont go 1-1-1-1 in a P4

25%...man that is just criminal

Yeah, especially compared to the 60% takeout for the lotto.

:rolleyes: Did you read any of what you quoted?

He's joking.

Any idea what they are doing with supers this year? I read one story in which it seemed that they were only going to have a super on the 9th race. Is this correct? What about dime supers as well?

From the NYRA Web Site:
Straight bets (win, place and show), exactas and trifectas will be offered on every race, when possible. Rolling Pick 3s will be offered on races 1-7 on nine-race cards; 1-8 on 10-race cards. Pick 4s will be offered, beginning with race 2 and with race 6 on nine-race cards; race 2 and race 7 on 10-race cards. Additionally, there will be one Grand Slam wager per card. This bet is offered on the race following the start of the Pick 6.

Superfectas will be offered on the final race of the day.