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jcs11204 06-29-2008 10:58 PM

Bernardini ?
 
Just curious of what everyone thinks of him, what is his place in history ?
I just watched replays of all of his races and he was a freak, and no shame at all with that loss to Invasor.

jcs11204 06-29-2008 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Seriously?

lolol
YES SIR

Coach Pants 06-29-2008 11:05 PM

Summon Kyrim

jcs11204 06-30-2008 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
He made 8 starts. What kind of a place could he really have in history? He was a nice horse, but he is one of many from this era that it's hard to say because we didn't get to see enough of them on the track.

i think he was the best of the horses that we did not see enough of...but i do agree with what you say, what kind of place can he really have ? thats why i asked

freddymo 06-30-2008 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
i think he was the best of the horses that we did not see enough of...but i do agree with what you say, what kind of place can he really have ? thats why i asked

Dude he isn't part of history..Other then being on Abe's list that is

the_fat_man 06-30-2008 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Dude he isn't part of history..

Hurry Up JAVY saw to that.

freddymo 06-30-2008 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Hurry Up JAVY saw to that.

I respect your opinion a lot and recognize you have a great deal of knowledge about racing but jockeys aren't typically as responsible for horses failures as horses. A nice colt ran a few very smart races.. I would have loved to watch the Preakness that day instead of being so upset. It might have been a great race, maybe like the two hanging on my wall from 89?

miraja2 06-30-2008 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
What is his place in history ?

In my opinion he was a pretty good colt who unfortunately is also a top contender in the "Most Overrated Horse of the Decade" category.

VOL JACK 06-30-2008 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Hurry Up JAVY saw to that.

He thought they were racing to the quarter pole. Just another over-confident ride by a jock that thinks they cant get beat no matter what.

jcs11204 06-30-2008 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Hurry Up JAVY saw to that.

your wrong, javy appeared to be empty in that race, what was he supposed to do ? plus invasor backed that win up in giant way, coming back to win the dubai world cup and donn... no shame in that loss

Danzig 06-30-2008 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
your wrong, javy appeared to be empty in that race, what was he supposed to do ? plus invasor backed that win up in giant way, coming back to win the dubai world cup and donn... no shame in that loss

bernardini ran his race that day. no need to make excuses for him, he just faced a better, older horse. he certainly wasn't empty, and the jock may have ridden him a bit overconfidently. other than that, it was just invasors day to come out on top.

Cannon Shell 06-30-2008 08:19 PM

Is it possible for someone to put his pp's up?

jcs11204 06-30-2008 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
bernardini ran his race that day. no need to make excuses for him, he just faced a better, older horse. he certainly wasn't empty, and the jock may have ridden him a bit overconfidently. other than that, it was just invasors day to come out on top.

HIS RACE ? go watch the replay, he was in a all out drive with no response turning for home, then he suddenly kicks it in, STRANGE.

ateamstupid 06-30-2008 09:17 PM

I think Bernardini was freaking awesome. Some disagree, and that's fine. But I find it hilarious that people point to his loss to Invasor as some rightful indictment of the horse. The two of them both ran great races that day, and when watching the debacle that most likely will be this year's Classic, I'll be bummed that we don't have a horse like Bernardini in the race.

jcs11204 06-30-2008 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
I think Bernardini was freaking awesome. Some disagree, and that's fine. But I find it hilarious that people point to his loss to Invasor as some rightful indictment of the horse. The two of them both ran great races that day, and when watching the debacle that most likely will be this year's Classic, I'll be bummed that we don't have a horse like Bernardini in the race.

you are the man !

dalakhani 06-30-2008 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
I think Bernardini was freaking awesome. Some disagree, and that's fine. But I find it hilarious that people point to his loss to Invasor as some rightful indictment of the horse. The two of them both ran great races that day, and when watching the debacle that most likely will be this year's Classic, I'll be bummed that we don't have a horse like Bernardini in the race.

true. No question to his talent. Its just interesting that the only time that he was tested, he folded.

The best of the horses we didnt see enough of? Hah! Ever see Candy Ride? Mizzen Mast? Lamtarra? I could go on all night about horses that fit that criteria that would have smoked bernardini.

jcs11204 06-30-2008 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
true. No question to his talent. Its just interesting that the only time that he was tested, he folded.

The best of the horses we didnt see enough of? Hah! Ever see Candy Ride? Mizzen Mast? Lamtarra? I could go on all night about horses that fit that criteria that would have smoked bernardini.

he folded ? ? holy ****, its like ppl did not see the same race... this horse won everything in hand for fun, never ever asked to run... HE WAS NOT HIMSELF IN THE CLASSIC AND STILL RAN A DEAD GAME SECOND, FOLDED, WHAT RACE DID YOU WATCH ?

dalakhani 06-30-2008 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
he folded ? ? holy ****, its like ppl did not see the same race... this horse won everything in hand for fun, never ever asked to run... HE WAS NOT HIMSELF IN THE CLASSIC AND STILL RAN A DEAD GAME SECOND, FOLDED, WHAT RACE DID YOU WATCH ?

folded, lost...whatever. It was his only test against a real horse and he lost. How about that?


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