Who would ever get into this game now?
 

The sport of horse racing is worse now then I ever imagined.

I'm from Minnesota and grew up following Canterbury, which I still follow.

Justin Evans and Jamie Ness are winning races with anything. They could claim a pair of tube socks and find the winners circle next time out. Of particular interest is watching EVERY single Justin Evans runner. They all get quarterhorsed to the lead, regardless of the distance, and are asked the ENTIRE race and either kick on to win by double digits or hang in gamely after being passed.

What drugs are being used that allows a horse to be asked for everything for 7 furlongs without noticebly tiring?

Milkshakes

Whatever they're not testing for at Canterbury - which is probably the same stuff they weren't testing for at Tampa.... or they are very good at what they do.

It's impossible to prove a negative, so logically you would have to assume the latter unless proven otherwise.

Testing at the smaller tracks is woefully inadequate in comparison to the larger tracks which are just plain inadequate.

It's infuriating, Chuck....On a related note, IEAH and Dutrow just won a G1 with an allowance horse

....that was passed in the stretch and somehow came back in a 1 1/4 race....

Three Chiminey's is on speed dial I'm sure :D

basically the whole field was allowance level, save for AP Arrow who was highly suspect

You guys need to actually watch the races before just assuming that everything is drug related. Maybe if Saez isn't in such a hurray to make the lead, the race is won at the wire and not at the turn, after all, he saves some horse and wins the race, like he's supposed to, given his setup. He screws up and it's a drug thing. Go figure.:rolleyes:

The entire sport is fiction. It's impossible to believe even ONE feat of accomplishment due to the massive abuse.

Does anyone think this will change for the better? I certainly don't see an end in sight.

what flavor?

can someone tell me if this payoff is wacked out, the winners of the last 3 at belmont paid 5.30, 82.00, and 17.60. however the pic 3 for a dollar was $364.50 a straight $2 parlay would have brought back $1800 ----WTF-------

right on! I have owned horse on and off for 30 years and it seems now more than ever at many tracks just a select few are taking down almost all the $. just like your example of cby

It took Jose Canseco's book and Congressional hearings to get MLB off their butts to at least make an effort to clean things up. As much as I hate to see federal involvement in our game, if it can clean up the drugs and the cheaters, I'm all for it. Now if the Feds would just give us a break on the tax situation. We get taxed wagering into the pools, and taxed again when we make a nice score. I like the way the bookies in England do it. You can pay your tax on the wager when making it, or pay your tax when you cash if you win. They don't hit you both ways.

Your melodramatics are fun to read..Multiple choice question for you:

a) There are less cheaters now than 20 years ago
b) There are more cheaters now than 20 years ago
c) Answer A is right, but there are more systems in place to catch them

Obviously, I think "C" is correct..That doesn't make any of the positives or abuses going on now right, but don't think this sport's glory days were oats and hay.

tax free betting as of a few years back.. now with the likes of betfair, we bet to 100% books, all tax free

Can't refute either BUT, and it's a big BUT, the game seemed a little more fair 20 years ago. What is happening now is so obviously crooked that I cannot even begin to defend it. I personally know three players that bet enormous amounts daily that have quit the game outright. Two of them play poker and the other spends his gambling dollar on sports betting. All three quit because it was an impossible game to play.

what is enormous?

it was the pedigree