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Kasept 06-25-2008 09:16 PM

6/26: HOL-$750k Carryover -- Discussion
 
3rd (2:25)

1 1/16 Miles (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Claiming ($25,000 - $22,500) | Purse: $22,000

1 1 Babu Migliore R Aguirre Paul G 123 $22,500 L 6-1
2 2 Cut Trail Solis A Bell Thomas R II 121 $25,000 L 4-1
3 3 Scotty Jones Enriquez I D Van Berg Jack C 124 $25,000 L 12-1
4 4 Elregalo Arambula P Gonzalez Felix L 1097 $25,000 L 12-1
5 5 Nate' N Ed Martinez M Garcia Juan 1115 $25,000 L 10-1
6 6 Angus Bejarano R O'Neill Doug 121 $25,000 L 2-1
7 7 Informed Pedroza M A Baffert Bob 121 $25,000 L 9-5

$1 Exacta / $2 Quinella / $1 Trifecta / $2 Parlay $2 Double / $1 Pick 3 $2 Pick 6 (Races 3-8)



4th (2:57)

7 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Maiden Claiming ($25,000 - $22,500) | Purse: $15,000

1 1 Warren's Jack V. Pedroza M A Gutierrez Jorge 118 $25,000 L 5-1
2 2 Bean Who Martinez M Bean Robert A 1115 $22,500 L 15-1
3 3 Cold Prince Garcia J A Van Berg Jack C 122 $22,500 L 5-1
4 4 Heywatchulookingat Arambula P De La Torre Jose 1117 $25,000 L 15-1
5 5 Vanaldi Bejarano R Puype Mike 118 $25,000 L 5-2
6 6 Strong Suggestion Quinonez A Treece Charles S 116 $22,500 L 15-1
8 7 Black Magic Almeida G F Pinfield Timothy 124 $25,000 L 10-1
9 8 Deputy Prize Talamo J Jones Martin F 118 $25,000 L 7-2
10 9 Quiet Revolution Flores D R Reviriego Juan J 118 $25,000 L 5-1

$1 Exacta / $2 Quinella / $1 Trifecta / $2 Parlay $1 Superfecta (10-cent min.) / $2 Double / $1 Pick 3



5th (3:29)

7 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Claiming ($12,500 - $10,500) | Purse: $15,000

1 1 Stormin Jack Potts C L Cerin Vladimir 122 $12,500 L 8-1
2 2 Las Vegas Lucky Arambula P De La Torre Jose 1137 $12,500 L 30-1
3 3 Cousins Lew Talamo J Koriner Brian 122 $12,500 L 7-2
4 4 Lone Prairie Contreras L Metz Jeff 120 $12,500 L 20-1
5 5 Austie Garcia J A Ward Wesley A 122 $12,500 L 6-1
6 6 Refinery Baze T C McFarlane Dan L 120 $12,500 L 5-1
7 7 The Supply Program Garcia M Mullins Jeff 122 $12,500 L 8-1
8 8 Jamie (ARG) Quinonez A McAnally Ronald 120 $12,500 L 12-1
9 9 Celtic Sword (ARG) Rosario J Canani Julio C 120 $12,500 L 9-2
10 10 City Stormer Almeida G F Carava Jack 120 $12,500 L 6-1
11 11 Twoway Hard Ten Campos J L M Kruljac J Eric 1175 $12,500 L 12-1

$1 Exacta / $2 Quinella / $1 Trifecta / $2 Parlay $1 Superfecta (10-cent min.) / $2 Double / $1 Pick 3 TVG $150,000 Guaranteed $1 Pick 4 (Races 5-6-7-8)



6th (3:59)

7 1/2 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Maiden Claiming ($32,000 - $28,000) | Purse: $18,000

1 1 Warren's Ballet Baze T C Gutierrez Jorge 118 $32,000 L 10-1
2 2 Afternoon Gold Delgadillo A Breuer Denise E 118 $32,000 L 5-1
3 3 Ann's Approval Bejarano R Mendoza Jesus 118 $32,000 Blk-Off L 3-1
4 4 Enlightened Lady Garcia J A Moreno Henry 116 $28,000 L 15-1
5 5 Molitta Campos J L M Cerin Vladimir 1135 $32,000 L 7-2
6 6 Tallahsocean Flores D R Cassidy James 118 $32,000 L 4-1
7 7 Little Brenda Migliore R O'Neill Doug 118 $32,000 L 8-1
8 8 Tiz Ballado Garcia M Valenzuela, Jr. M H 118 $32,000 Blk-Off L 5-1

$1 Exacta / $2 Quinella / $1 Trifecta / $2 Parlay $1 Superfecta (10-cent min.) / $2 Double / $1 Pick 3



7th (4:29)

1 1/16 Miles (All Weather Track) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Allowance Optional Claiming ($125,000) | Purse: $61,000

1 1 Mostacolli Mort Baze T C Canani Julio C 124 L 7-2
2 2 Tall Texan Espinoza V Mandella Richard 120 L 4-1
3 3 Declan's Moon Migliore R Ellis Ronald W 120 L 8-1
4 4 Luhuk's Dancer Bejarano R Gaines Carla 120 L 3-1
5 5 Zappa Rosario J Sadler John W 122 $125,000 L 5-2
6 6 Southern Africa Valdivia J Jr Lewis Craig A 120 L 10-1
7 7 Freesgood Solis A Currin William L 122 L 10-1

$1 Exacta / $2 Quinella / $1 Trifecta / $2 Parlay $2 Double



8th (4:59)

5 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Maiden Claiming ($40,000 - $32,000) | Purse: $20,000

1 1 Miss Reyna Contreras L Gonzalez Sal 120 $40,000 L 20-1
2 2 Can Can Girl John K Harrington Mike 120 $40,000 L 15-1
3 3 Ten Churros Potts C L Mullins Jeff 120 $40,000 L 2-1
4 4 Ammarie Baze T C Shulman Sanford 120 $40,000 L 20-1
5 5 Yoursmynanours (MEX) Rosario J Marquez Alfredo 120 $40,000 12-1
6 6 Paradisi Delgadillo A Paasch Christopher S 120 $40,000 L 8-1
7 7 Grace Gryder Garcia M Stein Roger M 120 $40,000 L 10-1
9 8 Sagebrush Angel Garcia J A Kruljac J Eric 118 $32,000 L 10-1
10 9 Soup Deeohdouble G Espinoza V Monteleone Frank J 120 $40,000 L 5-2
11 10 Chatty Lulu Valdivia J Jr Solis Walther 120 $40,000 L 6-1
14 AE Goodday Bejarano R Miller Peter 120 $40,000 L 10-1
15 AE Shootinforthestarz Quinonez A Metz Jeff 120 $40,000 10-1


$1 Exacta / $2 Quinella / $1 Trifecta $1 Superfecta (10-cent min.) $1 Super High 5

Scav 06-25-2008 09:30 PM

One word
 
Impossible!!

jcs11204 06-25-2008 09:46 PM

i think i agree with Scav, you would need a huge bankroll or have to be super lucky to hit this, very likely its another carryover...


but i do like Tall Texan a lot in the 8th, i think he's a single for anyone taking a stab at this.
also.. in no way am i saying any track does this, or can do this... but hollywood would LOVE a giant carryover for saturdays GIANT card.

declansharbor 06-25-2008 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcs11204
i think i agree with Scav, you would need a huge bankroll or have to be super lucky to hit this, very likely its another carryover...


but i do like Tall Texan a lot in the 8th, i think he's a single for anyone taking
a stab at this.

As hard as it looks, there is no way it carries again, no way. Sorry Scavs for quoting.

Im going to give Zappa another chance. May single him in one of the tickets that I actually play.

SCUDSBROTHER 06-25-2008 10:11 PM

I am just trying to figure out how in the hell someone was alive today in that last leg. No, I don't see it carrying over again(no matter what.)

SCUDSBROTHER 06-26-2008 04:07 AM

Anita 14TH APRIL RACE 8...WTF took place at the line in that race? Trevor calls Afternoon Gold the winner, and she did look like the winner.

Bigsmc 06-26-2008 04:28 AM

PG,

You do realize that they are running today AND friday? If in some wild way it carries today. Friday will be hit 50 times.

I think I am going Scav's route on this one...enough.

-BT- 06-26-2008 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by declansharbor
As hard as it looks, there is no way it carries again, no way. Sorry Scavs for quoting.

Im going to give Zappa another chance. May single him in one of the tickets that I actually play.


you love you some ZAPPA

1 more carryover would make for an interesting friday night card.... even though i'm supposed to be taking this week off and getting squared away for 3 days of racing (thurs/fri/sat) next week.

gl all

-bt-

MaTH716 06-26-2008 09:44 AM

I don't have a form and don't plan on playing, but would the 8th be a manadory ALL button play?

pweizer 06-26-2008 09:49 AM

I think the 8th is the most managable race in the sequence (3 and 10 are standouts). The 3rd to me is the real trap race. Many will single the 7 but I would be very leary of a horse that sold for half a million and was competitive in tough races who goes on the shelf is trained lightly and then shows up for a $25k tag.

Paul

MISTERGEE 06-26-2008 10:26 AM

$1000 for a million?
 
here goes pic 6 Hollywood
6-7/1-3-5-10/3-5-6/2-3/1-2-4-5/7-9-10

Bigsmc 06-26-2008 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pweizer
I think the 8th is the most managable race in the sequence (3 and 10 are standouts). The 3rd to me is the real trap race. Many will single the 7 but I would be very leary of a horse that sold for half a million and was competitive in tough races who goes on the shelf is trained lightly and then shows up for a $25k tag.

Paul

Huge trap. Two monster droppers from trainers I like to play against with this move. However, the rest of the entries look horrible to me so I'm having difficulties coming up with an upsetter.

Scav 06-26-2008 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
I am just trying to figure out how in the hell someone was alive today in that last leg. No, I don't see it carrying over again(no matter what.)

I think the 1st race winner was probably 3rd/4th, 3 and 4 were obvious, the 1 and 5 were downright bad and the 6 had extreme questions. So if you were three deep in the 1st leg, and 5 deep in the 2nd leg (Personally, I had the opinion of one of the firsters would run well), and then 2 deep (1 and 7, didn't like Toasted or Kewin, liked the 1 and 7)...Then you were looking at 3x5x2 and I thought 4 horses got it done in that 4th leg, so you are looking at 3x5x2x4 which is only 120 combos, so if you were 4x4 into the last, then you are looking at 4k ticket, it is plausible. Hell, the 8 was by far the best horse in that race, but the 2 wasn't 'impossible'

The impossible winners for me were the 1st leg, and the last leg. And is it coincedence(?) that they were both Sadler horses :)

MISTERGEE 06-26-2008 10:38 AM

I agree, however if I was forced into it I would take Cut Trail or Scotty Jones to upset only because there is a possible suicidal speed duel in here and with them all staggering in the stretch one of those may win by default. I would normally go against Angus & Informed with those scary dropdowns but in a pic 6 play may have to hope they have one more good one left in them

herkhorse 06-26-2008 11:42 AM

Any chance that the 1 or 4 could hang on and win the third race? The only way I could cash a ticket at Hollywood is with tomorrows paper, but I will make a small donation.

Bigsmc 06-26-2008 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE
I agree, however if I was forced into it I would take Cut Trail or Scotty Jones to upset only because there is a possible suicidal speed duel in here and with them all staggering in the stretch one of those may win by default. I would normally go against Angus & Informed with those scary dropdowns but in a pic 6 play may have to hope they have one more good one left in them

Cut Trail would be my choice, but I can't stomach the 1 for 24 lifetime record. I am thinking Bejarano is smart enough not to get cooked in a duel. It's a 6,7 for me as much as I don't like them....

Bigsmc 06-26-2008 12:29 PM

Race 8
 
Why is Chris Paasch offering up a half to Principle Secret for a tag first time out? Not a good sign.

MISTERGEE 06-26-2008 12:49 PM

Lost Soldier not much as a sire, maybe an occasional turf runner I dont believe much else on dirt or poly

MISTERGEE 06-26-2008 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herkhorse
Any chance that the 1 or 4 could hang on and win the third race? The only way I could cash a ticket at Hollywood is with tomorrows paper, but I will make a small donation.

highly unlikely

SCUDSBROTHER 06-26-2008 12:53 PM

One thing I can tell you (for sure) is that if you play this man with the name that rhymes back onto itself (Agapito Delgadillo,) then you aren't gunna luck into any wins. You will only win if you have (by far) the best horse. He really should be riding somewhere lower in quality.


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