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Secretariat 07-26-2006 11:18 AM

Springs ?? what springs ??
 
does any body ever go there for the spa like springs or is it a big spring factory that gave the place it name ??

springs ??

what springes, you never see a horse in the springs, heck you never even hear of them.

i thnk they are fictional to make the name of the dumpy little town sound quaint.

Cajungator26 07-26-2006 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Secretariat
does any body ever go there for the spa like springs or is it a big spring factory that gave the place it name ??

springs ??

what springes, you never see a horse in the springs, heck you never even hear of them.

i thnk they are fictional to make the name of the dumpy little town sound quaint.

I'm surprised you didn't google this to find out yourself, but here you go...

The springs in Saratoga arise from complex geological phenomena. The limestone layers of a basin between Lake George and Albany trap ancient seawater, but the solid layer of shale that seals in the waters is fractured along the Saratoga fault, which outcrops within the town and environs of Saratoga Springs. As the water escapes to the surface, it dissolves the overlying limestone layers, contributing to the unique content of the springs. The springs of Saratoga are some of the few naturally carbonated springs found in the United States.

Saratoga Spa State Park, located three miles from downtown Saratoga, is home to several springs. The Hathorn #3, Coesa, Orena, and Polaris springs offer different tastes; other springs within the park are labeled radioactive because of minute quantities of radon gas. The Island Spouter is a "geyser" built up by an island of carbonate deposits in the middle of a stream.

In the town of Saratoga Springs, additional springs can be found. A hundred years ago, these springs were advertised for their potential for healing skin disorders, curing the effects of "abdominal plethora," and relieving indigestion. Today, they are one of the many interesting attractions of the region.


http://www.outreach.psu.edu/C&I/WRI/...chPage=springs

Secretariat 07-26-2006 11:49 AM

well you never hear any of these gamblers saying
"i'm going to the state park saturday for a soak"

i guess its a different crowd at the springs than at the track.

Downthestretch55 07-26-2006 11:51 AM

Cajun,
Thanks for the research.
Actually, the Iroquois and Woodland Indians have not been given enough credit for their discovery of this unique geological feature. The springs are all over. Worth the time to take a walk in the park and have a taste. Bring a cup. They are still pouring out. Overlooked by many that are just here for the horses. So many sites of interest...the battlefield, racing museum...
I could go on and on.
Now, back to talking about "springs". About an hour west on I-88 is the town of Sharon Springs. Had glory days early in the 20th century from many people looking for relaxing baths in the sulfur rich "waters".
The baths are still there though the town has declined. It kind of smells like "rotten eggs" but still attracts folks in search of curing.
Definitely worth a side trip for the adventurous.

Here in the northern Catskills, there are many water bottling companies that sell the fresh clean water to many outlets.
I sometimes take it for granted that the source of water for NYC melts from the snows that blanket the mountains I look at each day.

boldruler 07-26-2006 12:02 PM

You can actually get a look at the water on your walk from the track to downtown. There is a pump there that shoots out the spring water. Nothing worth tasting. The Saratoga bottled water though is really good, not the blue bottled, but the regular water.

Secretariat 07-26-2006 12:18 PM

i still think it has to do with a spring factory

Saratoga Industrial Springs

smoothing america's bumps since th civil war.

isn't thier factory on union avenue ?

kentuckyrosesinmay 07-26-2006 12:20 PM

All of this talk of Saratoga makes me want to move up there and live for awhile. Maybe, just maybe, I'll get there one day.

Secretariat 07-26-2006 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
All of this talk of Saratoga makes me want to move up there and live for awhile. Maybe, just maybe, I'll get there one day.

jeezz...

don't you live in kentucky...

i mean its not like your starved for stakes action at churchill,
like we are here in chicago. i mean we have 4 days of racing action, the million race. the washington park gr2 on dirt 9.5f, the illinois derby at hawthorne, and the Hawthorne gold cup, both grade2's

13,000,000 people in 3 couties and this is what they offer us.

1st_Saturday_in_May 07-26-2006 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Secretariat
jeezz...

don't you live in kentucky...

i mean its not like your starved for stakes action at churchill,
like we are here in chicago. i mean we have 4 days of racing action, the million race. the washington park gr2 on dirt 9.5f, the illinois derby at hawthorne, and the Hawthorne gold cup, both grade2's

13,000,000 people in 3 couties and this is what they offer us.

Hey, be happy your not in Western PA. I have to go to freakin Mountaineer once a year for good racing, taht being the WV Derby - a solid Grade III won by the likes of Real Dandy last year....atleast youve got the Secretariat, Million, Beverly D, Washington Park, etc. so I dont wanna hear any complainin from you

Secretariat 07-26-2006 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st_Saturday_in_May
Hey, be happy your not in Western PA. I have to go to freakin Mountaineer once a year for good racing, taht being the WV Derby - a solid Grade III won by the likes of Real Dandy last year....atleast youve got the Secretariat, Million, Beverly D, Washington Park, etc. so I dont wanna hear any complainin from you


Man thats just sad......:(

did you want to borrow a tissue.

i did n't realize you were so down trodden, at least your football is good.

1st_Saturday_in_May 07-26-2006 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Secretariat
Man thats just sad......:(

did you want to borrow a tissue.

i did n't realize you were so down trodden, at least your football is good.

yeah the football is good, but the baseball sucks - least you got the world champs (and the bears aint that bad either)

Downthestretch55 07-26-2006 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st_Saturday_in_May
Hey, be happy your not in Western PA. I have to go to freakin Mountaineer once a year for good racing, taht being the WV Derby - a solid Grade III won by the likes of Real Dandy last year....atleast youve got the Secretariat, Million, Beverly D, Washington Park, etc. so I dont wanna hear any complainin from you

Western PA...fond memories for me.
About an hour north of Pittsburgh is a town called New Castle. A few miles north is New Wilmington. Now, we're talking "small town". Nearby is Volant.
Every weekend, the Amish would bring their trotters to the stretch of road that connects New Wilmington with Volant... buggy races.
Kind of like what happens when you give your teenage kid the family car for the afternoon.
Friends and I would watch them go from our vantage on a hill side, with binocs, and make side bets. I wonder if they still do it.
I guess racing is where you find it.
Once you find Saratoga, not much can compare.

Damascus '67 07-26-2006 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Western PA...fond memories for me.
About an hour north of Pittsburgh is a town called New Castle. A few miles north is New Wilmington. Now, we're talking "small town". Nearby is Volant.
Every weekend, the Amish would bring their trotters to the stretch of road that connects New Wilmington with Volant... buggy races.
Kind of like what happens when you give your teenage kid the family car for the afternoon.
Friends and I would watch them go from our vantage on a hill side, with binocs, and make side bets. I wonder if they still do it.
I guess racing is where you find it.
Once you find Saratoga, not much can compare.

Small world..My Aunt and Uncle are from New Wilmington. He used to be a professor at Westminster College.

Secretariat 07-26-2006 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Western PA...fond memories for me.
About an hour north of Pittsburgh is a town called New Castle. A few miles north is New Wilmington. Now, we're talking "small town". Nearby is Volant.
Every weekend, the Amish would bring their trotters to the stretch of road that connects New Wilmington with Volant... buggy races.
Kind of like what happens when you give your teenage kid the family car for the afternoon.
Friends and I would watch them go from our vantage on a hill side, with binocs, and make side bets. I wonder if they still do it.
I guess racing is where you find it.
Once you find Saratoga, not much can compare.

i did chuckle at that....

i don't think the amish are allowed to wager

Downthestretch55 07-26-2006 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Damascus '67
Small world..My Aunt and Uncle are from New Wilmington. He used to be a professor at Westminster College.

Yup,
Small world indeed. Spent my freshman year at Westminster, then transfered.
Paul, I don't think the Amish bet. We sure did!

Cajungator26 07-26-2006 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Secretariat
jeezz...

don't you live in kentucky...

i mean its not like your starved for stakes action at churchill,
like we are here in chicago. i mean we have 4 days of racing action, the million race. the washington park gr2 on dirt 9.5f, the illinois derby at hawthorne, and the Hawthorne gold cup, both grade2's

13,000,000 people in 3 couties and this is what they offer us.

I don't think she lives in Kentucky. She lives in NC. And Saratoga Springs isn't named for Saratoga Industrial. I guess researching it on the net isn't sufficient for you, so think what you want.

Secretariat 07-26-2006 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I don't think she lives in Kentucky. She lives in NC. And Saratoga Springs isn't named for Saratoga Industrial. I guess researching it on the net isn't sufficient for you, so think what you want.

i cannot belive that you took me serious,


ohhh man..


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