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AeWingnut 06-22-2008 12:07 PM

JR Velasquez can be such an idiot
 
He's on the best horse, Just A Little Jet in the 1st race at Belmont
and he's getting cute trying to go up the rail behind a quitter

the trifecta wouldn't pay much but I had it

the_fat_man 06-22-2008 12:14 PM

This is pretty much a clueless riding colony when it comes to the turf courses at BEL. You'd think they were riding at HOL or SA. They just fail to grasp that the OUTSIDE is the place to be here. And, what's with all these DEAD HORSES being kept on the rail in the stretch, ensuring that the field clusters and making it increasingly more difficult to come off the pace, as well more dangerous to ride? Once upon a time, there'd be payback for **** like that. Today, who cares?

docicu3 06-22-2008 12:35 PM

Dutrow potions still working in the second!!

AeWingnut 06-22-2008 12:41 PM

Velasquez had a lot to do with the winner in the 2nd as well.
I guess it's impossible to save ground but to ride with zero sense of urgency

docicu3 06-22-2008 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
Velasquez had a lot to do with the winner in the 2nd as well.
I guess it's impossible to save ground but to ride with zero sense of urgency

Edgar seemed to know he was packing more horse in the stretch while being aware of where the overinflated 6 was.....actually it's not unlike Garcia realizing he had the first won once JR made a couple of bad decisions prior to the finish of the first.

I'll give the 1 with Gomez a shot here against the chalk with small exacta boxes 1/2,5 and reverse

docicu3 06-22-2008 01:01 PM

Morales doesn't look happy with his mount in the 3rd..

docicu3 06-22-2008 01:08 PM

Maybe Gomez will wait until the race is over before making his move next time....that was pathetic....oh well

jcs11204 06-22-2008 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeWingnut
He's on the best horse, Just A Little Jet in the 1st race at Belmont
and he's getting cute trying to go up the rail behind a quitter

the trifecta wouldn't pay much but I had it

tell me about it, i had legit win/place money on her

jcs11204 06-22-2008 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
That horse has now lost as the favorite 4 times in a row. I don't think his ride was bad at all.

i dont see it either... in the second race he just got beat... but in the first, that was all his fault, he was sitting on a ton, if he goes outside he wins easy

jcs11204 06-22-2008 01:33 PM

what a joke, i cant get a trip today

the_fat_man 06-22-2008 01:36 PM

Nice.

RAIL SUCKING Gomez, on the rail, as usual, decides to stick righty on a tiring horse. As would be expected, the horse goes in, hits the rail, bounces off, and almost causes a spill. Next time maybe the doofus goes over the rail and learns his lesson.

jcs11204 06-22-2008 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Nice.

RAIL SUCKING Gomez, on the rail, as usual, decides to stick righty on a tiring horse. As would be expected, the horse goes in, hits the rail, bounces off, and almost causes a spill. Next time maybe the doofus goes over the rail and learns his lesson.

i bet pegasian win/place, and im sure he was running at the least second if not for the incident

AeWingnut 06-22-2008 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
That horse has now lost as the favorite 4 times in a row. I don't think his ride was bad at all.


that horse wasn't asked for run until after he was passed. That and being stuck out wide like he was on Big Brown

either way after the ride he had in the first he gets all the blame

blackthroatedwind 06-22-2008 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Certainly he wasn't the only horse out there right? Wasn't he passed on the outside. I have to watch the first again. But to blame him in the second is silly.

He rode the horse perfectly in the second. Knocking that ride borders on lunacy.

jcs11204 06-22-2008 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
He rode the horse perfectly in the second. Knocking that ride borders on lunacy.

WHAT about in the first ?

AeWingnut 06-22-2008 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Certainly he wasn't the only horse out there right? Wasn't he passed on the outside. I have to watch the first again. But to blame him in the second is silly.


What goes 99 clunk, 99 clunk, 99 clunk...

a centipede with a wooden leg.

now that's silly

watch both races and tell me he never had a choice to make. That he had to be cute and try to go up the rail in the first and in the 2nd. Yes, he was passed on the outside he was at least 4 wide all the way around the track and just sat there like he was waiting to get beat.

jcs11204 06-22-2008 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'd like to know when the last time Jorge Chavez got a horse out of the gate cleanly. Can't be this year right?

hes all done
mike smith is better


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