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jcs11204 06-08-2008 09:19 PM

Patrick Biancone
 
When does he come back ? When he comes back what happens ? is it like starting over, or will he get some of his old horses back ?

blackthroatedwind 06-08-2008 09:23 PM

I think late October he can apply for his trainers license again.

He's already purchased a farm. Whether he gets his prior owners back remains to be seen but I wouldn't be surprised if Coolmore gives him horses again. He's pretty tight with them.

parsixfarms 06-08-2008 09:48 PM

Perhaps more importantly, will any tracks give him stalls?

jcs11204 06-08-2008 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms
Perhaps more importantly, will any tracks give him stalls?

how does that work ? they dont have to ?

blackthroatedwind 06-08-2008 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
how does that work ? they dont have to ?

Tracks don't have to give anyone stalls. Therein lies their power. Keeping them from entering in races is a different story.

That doesn't mean they can't utilize private training centers.

jcs11204 06-08-2008 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Tracks don't have to give anyone stalls. Therein lies their power. Keeping them from entering in races is a different story.

That doesn't mean they can't utilize private training centers.

i consider patrick a lot like me, and chuckles... a all time great. would they keep stalls away from him

parsixfarms 06-08-2008 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Tracks don't have to give anyone stalls. Therein lies their power. Keeping them from entering in races is a different story.

That doesn't mean they can't utilize private training centers.

I'm assuming there may be some legal distinction for allowing entries, but I've never understood what it is. If the trainer doesn't have, for want of a better word, the character to deserve stalls, why does he have the character to enter races? All you end up doing is simply inconveniencing him.

Danzig 06-08-2008 10:05 PM

am i the only one who cringes at 'chuckles'?

patrick biancone is many things, an all time great is not one of the names i would give him.
it wouldn't break my heart one bit if he was denied stalls.

jcs11204 06-08-2008 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
am i the only one who cringes at 'chuckles'?

patrick biancone is many things, an all time great is not one of the names i would give him.
it wouldn't break my heart one bit if he was denied stalls.

i went a bit over the top on that one... i just have always liked him.

Coach Pants 06-08-2008 10:09 PM

Don't worry, Danzig...the karma police will get him. And if they don't the karma chameleon will make him feel uncomfortable.

Danzig 06-08-2008 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
i went a bit over the top on that one... i just have always liked him.

him as in biancone? dude got caught with cobra venom, which is used to nerve a horse, and has (last i heard) no test that can detect it in a horses system. you think he only had it because he wanted more than just cream in his coffee? he got a year off for dammed good reason.

Danzig 06-08-2008 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Don't worry, Danzig...the karma police will get him. And if they don't the karma chameleon will make him feel uncomfortable.

it comes and goes tho, right??

parsixfarms 06-08-2008 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Don't worry, Danzig...the karma police will get him. And if they don't the karma chameleon will make him feel uncomfortable.

Boy George is touring the US??

docicu3 06-08-2008 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms
Boy George is touring the US??


He can print tickets but no stalls (halls) for him!!!

ELA 06-08-2008 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms
I'm assuming there may be some legal distinction for allowing entries, but I've never understood what it is. If the trainer doesn't have, for want of a better word, the character to deserve stalls, why does he have the character to enter races? All you end up doing is simply inconveniencing him.

Depending on the jurisdiction -- one is a track management issue, while the other is a state/racing commission/etc. issue.

Eric

Scurlogue Champ 06-09-2008 02:44 AM

He'll return and win both Keeneland meets running off the farm.

blackthroatedwind 06-09-2008 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Scurlogue Champ
He'll return and win both Keeneland meets running off the farm.


You can get a square price on that.

freddymo 06-09-2008 06:59 AM

Cheating stinks no matter who does it. I always thought Biancone's horses were turned out well and wouldn't think twice about betting on his horses again. He is a very good trainer from all reports. You don't get horses from the folks he gets horses from because your hair cut is gorgeous and you have a a special beer belly. I guess the guy is a dam good horseman...save the snake juice

parsixfarms 06-09-2008 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Cheating stinks no matter who does it. I always thought Biancone's horses were turned out well and wouldn't think twice about betting on his horses again. He is a very good trainer from all reports. You don't get horses from the folks he gets horses from because your hair cut is gorgeous and you have a a special beer belly. I guess the guy is a dam good horseman...save the snake juice

Being a good horseman and being a cheater are not mutually exclusive concepts.

pgiaco 06-09-2008 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Cheating stinks no matter who does it. I always thought Biancone's horses were turned out well and wouldn't think twice about betting on his horses again. He is a very good trainer from all reports. You don't get horses from the folks he gets horses from because your hair cut is gorgeous and you have a a special beer belly. I guess the guy is a dam good horseman...save the snake juice

Save for the part about being a cheat on 2 continents...


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