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Kasept 05-29-2008 12:43 PM

Bodog Belmont/Big Brown Props
 
Will Big Brown win the Triple Crown?

Yes -300
No +220


Will Big Brown race again after the Belmont Stakes?

Yes +275
No -400


Will the official TV rating of the 2008 Belmont Stakes broadcast on ABC exceed the 13 share rating in 2004 when Smarty Jones attempted to win Triple Crown?

Yes -200
No +150


What will Big Brown’s margin of victory in the Belmont Stakes be?

1 - 5 Lengths 1/5
6 - 10 Lengths 7/2
Over 10 Lengths 20/1


Who will jockey Kent Desormeaux thank first upon being interviewed after the 2008 Belmont Stakes?

God/Jesus ` 10/1
Horse – Big Brown 3/1
Family or Family Member 6/5
Owner – IEAH Stables or partnership member 8/1
Trainer – Rick Dutrow 9/2
Fans/General Public 5/1


Will Big Brown win the Belmont Stakes going wire to wire?

Yes +450
No -750


Will Big Brown take the lead in the Belmont Stakes and lose it?

Yes +150
No -200


Will jockey Kent Desormeaux whip Big Brown between the 1/8th pole and the finish line of the Belmont Stakes?

Yes -350
No +250


Which position will Big Brown be in at the official first quarter mile time of the Belmont Stakes? (According to Equibase results chart)

1st or 2nd place 1/1
3rd through 5th place 5/7
6th place or higher 14/1


Which position will Big Brown be in at the official first half mile time of the Belmont Stakes? (According to Equibase results chart)

1st or 2nd place 1/1
3rd through 5th place 5/7
6th place or higher 14/1


Will Big Brown’s winning time in 2008 Belmont Stakes be faster than that of Affirmed – 2:26 4/5. in 1978?

Yes +150
No -200


Will Belmont Park attendance for the 2008 Belmont Stakes exceed that of 120,319 in 2004 when Smarty Jones attempted to win the Triple Crown?

Yes -275
No +200


Will the total all sources handle for the Belmont Stakes exceed the record $114,887,994 wagered in 2004 when Smarty Jones attempted to win the Triple Crown?

Yes EVEN
No -140


Which horse will win by more lengths, Big Brown in the 2008 Belmont Stakes or Curlin in the Stephen Foster Handicap June 14th?

Big Brown in Belmont Stakes EVEN
Curlin in Stephen Foster -140


Will Big Brown remain undefeated in 2008?

Yes -250
No +180


Odds to win the Belmont Stakes – Grade 1 – Belmont Park, New York

Big Brown 1/3
Casino Drive 7/2
Denis of Cork 10/1
Tale of Ekati 20/1
Behindatthebar 25/1
Anak Nakal 40/1
Macho Again 40/1
Readys Image 50/1
Icabad Crane 50/1
Mint Lane 50/1
Spark Candle 50/1
Tomcito 50/1


Belmont Stakes – Grade 1 – Belmont Park, New York – WITHOUT Big Brown

If Big Brown wins and your horse is 2nd – you win. If your horse wins – you win.


Casino Drive 6/5
Denis Of Cork 9/2
Tale Of Ekati 15/2
Behindatthebar 8/1
Anak Nakal 12/1
Macho Again 12/1
Readys Image 16/1
Icabad Crane 16/1
Mint Lane 16/1
Spark Candle 16/1
Tomcito 16/1

justindew 05-29-2008 01:19 PM

Regardless of how much you like his chances, 20-1 on the 10+ length margin of victory isn't a bad bet.

hockey2315 05-29-2008 01:35 PM

Really?

justindew 05-29-2008 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315
Really?

I would say there is a better than 4.7% chance he wins by more than 10 lengths.

hockey2315 05-29-2008 02:43 PM

I wouldn't.

lemoncrush 05-29-2008 02:56 PM

If this is real, , the funniest thing is they list Ready's Image at 50-1.
Ready's Image should be 1,000,000 - 1, because he's a sprinter that's not even pointing to this race.
Ready's Echo, is the horse they are referring to, I assume.

miraja2 05-29-2008 03:22 PM

I think betting against him running faster than Affirmed is a pretty safe bet.

In the last fifty years, the winner has broken 2:27 in this race only seven times. Six of those horses were Secretariat, Affirmed, Risen Star, Easy Goer, AP Indy, and Point Given.

Since Big Brown isn't in the same class as those animals, I expect he'll be slower than 2:27....unless the track happens to be lighting fast.

ManilaRose 05-29-2008 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justindew
I would say there is a better than 4.7% chance he wins by more than 10 lengths.

I agree totally. I'm not predicting he'll win by 10 or more, but I don't see how it would be a shocker considering this group he's running against and the fact that it isn't uncommon for the Belmont to be won by a fairly large margin. In fact, I'd say there are only 2 horses that have much of a chance to finish within 10 lengths of him.

Dunbar 05-29-2008 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
[b] Will Big Brown race again after the Belmont Stakes?

Yes +275
No -400

Note that Bodog's line on whether Big Brown will race again after the Belmont is about +-300. That's saying there's just a 25% chance he will race again. I think they've got that about right.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
What will Big Brown’s margin of victory in the Belmont Stakes be?

1 - 5 Lengths 1/5
6 - 10 Lengths 7/2
Over 10 Lengths 20/1

Interesting. What happens if BB wins by 5.5 lengths? I think Bodog accidentally gave itself some extra edge there.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Who will jockey Kent Desormeaux thank first upon being interviewed after the 2008 Belmont Stakes?

God/Jesus ` 10/1
Horse – Big Brown 3/1
Family or Family Member 6/5
Owner – IEAH Stables or partnership member 8/1
Trainer – Rick Dutrow 9/2
Fans/General Public 5/1

That one cracked me up. If it were Pat Day, "God/Jesus" would be 1/1.

--Dunbar

Scav 05-29-2008 04:34 PM

Dunbar, I would actually take that 10/1 for like $25, there is a good chance he does that hilarious crap right afterwards, especially if he wins

2MinsToPost 05-29-2008 06:12 PM

Below you will find the easiest 10-1 money on the face of earth. Every friggin athlete thanks God first, and it is so old to hear as well in my opinion. God is a big part but did not ride the horse, put the tires on, steer the car, make the shot, pass the ball, catch the touchdown pass etc etc.. You did. God gave you the gift and you used it. Off my soap box.

Who will jockey Kent Desormeaux thank first upon being interviewed after the 2008 Belmont Stakes?

God/Jesus ` 10/1
Horse – Big Brown 3/1
Family or Family Member 6/5
Owner – IEAH Stables or partnership member 8/1
Trainer – Rick Dutrow 9/2
Fans/General Public 5/1

Cajungator26 05-29-2008 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost
Below you will find the easiest 10-1 money on the face of earth. Every friggin athlete thanks God first, and it is so old to hear as well in my opinion. God is a big part but did not ride the horse, put the tires on, steer the car, make the shot, pass the ball, catch the touchdown pass etc etc.. You did. God gave you the gift and you used it. Off my soap box.

Who will jockey Kent Desormeaux thank first upon being interviewed after the 2008 Belmont Stakes?

God/Jesus ` 10/1
Horse – Big Brown 3/1
Family or Family Member 6/5
Owner – IEAH Stables or partnership member 8/1
Trainer – Rick Dutrow 9/2
Fans/General Public 5/1

God gave you fingers so that you could mute the TV too. ;)

SniperSB23 05-29-2008 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept


Will Big Brown race again after the Belmont Stakes?

Yes +275
No -400


That sort of bet amazes me. If IEAH has already decided he won't run after the Belmont is there anything preventing all of them from max betting on 'No'? It is free money.

justindew 05-29-2008 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SniperSB23
That sort of bet amazes me. If IEAH has already decided he won't run after the Belmont is there anything preventing all of them from max betting on 'No'? It is free money.

Knowing Bodog, there is probably a low max on this bet.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-29-2008 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunbar
That one cracked me up. If it were Pat Day, "God/Jesus" would be 1/1.

More like 1/20 - and it would probably offer value at five cents on the dollar.

ateamstupid 05-29-2008 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Odds to win the Belmont Stakes – Grade 1 – Belmont Park, New York

Big Brown 1/3
Casino Drive 7/2
Denis of Cork 10/1
Tale of Ekati 20/1
Behindatthebar 25/1
Anak Nakal 40/1
Macho Again 40/1
Readys Image 50/1
Icabad Crane 50/1
Mint Lane 50/1
Spark Candle 50/1
Tomcito 50/1

Huh? I think More Than Ready is more likely to run in this race than Ready's Image.

zippyneedsawin 05-29-2008 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
If Big Brown wins and your horse is 2nd – you win. If your horse wins – you win.[/b]

Casino Drive 6/5
Denis Of Cork 9/2
Tale Of Ekati 15/2
Behindatthebar 8/1
Anak Nakal 12/1
Macho Again 12/1
Readys Image 16/1
Icabad Crane 16/1
Mint Lane 16/1
Spark Candle 16/1
Tomcito 16/1


I'd take that bet.

hockey2315 05-29-2008 07:57 PM

I think Denis is probably the most likely to finish 2nd but I think you can get better than 9/2 in the exotics.

geeker2 05-29-2008 09:36 PM

When will they be putting up the u/o on the saddle cloth #'s ?

jms62 05-30-2008 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SniperSB23
That sort of bet amazes me. If IEAH has already decided he won't run after the Belmont is there anything preventing all of them from max betting on 'No'? It is free money.

There is ZERO chance that Big Brown runs after the Belmont. This is free money.


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