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Kasept 05-29-2008 11:57 AM

5/31 (HOL): Milady & Californian (Gr. II's)
 
5th (3:20) Milady H. (G2)

1 1/16 Miles (All Weather Track) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $175,000

1 Kris' Sis Garcia J A 113 L
2 Foxysox (GB) Espinoza V 117 L
3 Model Quinonez A 113 L
4 Romance Is Diane Baze M C 118 L
5 La Tee Baze T C 113 L
6 Zenyatta Smith M E 122 L
7 Double Trouble (BRZ) Bejarano R 116 L
8 Santa Teresita Talamo J 116 L



8th (4:50) Californian S. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Heatseeker (IRE) Bejarano R 122 L
2 Tiago Smith M E 126 L
3 Shamdinan (FR) Court J K 116 L
4 Surf Cat Solis A 118 L
5 Albertus Maximus Nakatani C S 116 L

letswastemoney 05-29-2008 12:35 PM

The Milady was the race where I first became a fan of Nashobas Key

alysheba4 05-29-2008 12:38 PM

same here, i still cant believe what happened.

RolloTomasi 05-29-2008 03:29 PM

Great renewal of the Californian. Heatseeker (Native Diver), Tiago (Swaps), and Surf Cat (Mervyn LeRoy) all own stakes wins over the track and are in top form on paper. Albertus Maximus is well thought of, having been runner-up to Tiago in the Swaps before getting his head ripped off in the Pacific Classic as a 3yo. Makes his 3rd start off a layoff with his last being an impressive allowance win over the track at short-odds. Even Shamdinan brings some back class, having a Grade 1 win on turf last year in addition to his runner-up spot in the BC Turf. Making his first start for Dan McFarlane, who I think trains privately for Triple B Farms (the horse has been with Doug O'Neill out west and Angel Penna back east). This colt will probably be last all the way around. He should probably go back to Penna who can spot him in some marathon races on off-turf back there at places like Delaware and Philly Park. I think there might even be an Atlantic City meet maybe.

Bobby Fischer 05-29-2008 03:57 PM

Go Zenyatta!

The heart of the CA. is very nice.

kind of wish they had recruited three or four more allowance level horses to participate. Who wants to bet on 5 horses?

I'm not even sure how the public/morning line will treat this. It looks like Heatseeker/Surfcat, so at least if the money is thrown at Tiago it could make for a win bet.

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-29-2008 04:04 PM

shamidain is bad.......or at least looked really bad at gs

Danzig 05-29-2008 05:46 PM

i thought they went to AWT to boost field size. yeah, it's workin'.

letswastemoney 05-29-2008 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i thought they went to AWT to boost field size. yeah, it's workin'.

Well...Zenyatta is in the field...

Danzig 05-29-2008 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by letswastemoney
Well...Zenyatta is in the field...

was referring to the californian with the whopping five entries.

King Glorious 05-30-2008 02:24 AM

Even though it's only five horses, it's five quality horses. Much better than a full field with only one or two of these and the usual allowance/claimers that fill the rest of the field.

letswastemoney 05-30-2008 04:11 AM

I think Heatseeker is better than Tiago on synthetics overall.

Danzig 05-30-2008 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious
Even though it's only five horses, it's five quality horses. Much better than a full field with only one or two of these and the usual allowance/claimers that fill the rest of the field.

i'd say it's three quality horses....albertus has an allowance win this year, with nothing of note since finishing second in last years' swaps. shamdinan has only disappointed this year.

Danzig 05-30-2008 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
I think Heatseeker is better than Tiago on synthetics overall.

tiago gets more weight this time, and will carry four more than heatseeker-i think heatseeker will avenge his loss at oaklawn.

10 pnt move up 05-30-2008 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
tiago gets more weight this time, and will carry four more than heatseeker-i think heatseeker will avenge his loss at oaklawn.

how about 8 more then surf cat! I am not big into weights but that is a heck of a shift.

King Glorious 05-30-2008 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
i'd say it's three quality horses....albertus has an allowance win this year, with nothing of note since finishing second in last years' swaps. shamdinan has only disappointed this year.

Probably right although with a French Derby third and a BC Turf second on his record to go with the Arlington grade one, I'd be ok with accepting Shamdinan as a quality horse. Even if it's only three though, it's better than a full field of nags.

By the way, Surf Cat beats them all.

ArlJim78 05-30-2008 12:09 PM

Shamdinan has been a total bust this year. still its an interesting race

Bigsmc 05-31-2008 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Shamdinan has been a total bust this year. still its an interesting race

And he has scratched, it's now a 4 horse race.

Coach Pants 05-31-2008 11:00 AM

Fantastic news, Bigs!!

Bigsmc 05-31-2008 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Fantastic news, Bigs!!

Glad I could brighten your day PP.

SCUDSBROTHER 05-31-2008 11:50 AM

Zenyatta/ Surf Cat

I can't see Tiago winning if he has to give up 8 pounds to Surf Cat. Should be a good battle between Heatseeker and Surf Cat. I think they are pretty close. Headley is doing a lot better than Hollendorfer is right now. With a short field, there is a much less chance of Solis finding trouble. Sometimes I just wonder if these guys get a bug in their barn, and it just takes a while to get it out.


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