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TheSpyder 05-17-2008 05:46 PM

Big Brown vs. The Others
 
Is he that good or are the others that bad?

Spyder

freddymo 05-17-2008 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder
Is he that good or are the others that bad?

Spyder


both

robfla 05-17-2008 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder
Is he that good or are the others that bad?

Spyder

the others are that bad AND he is that good

wac 05-17-2008 05:55 PM

Im afraid that you are right on both counts. Seems like all year long everyone on here said this crop of 3yr olds were lousy and i said well lets wait and see. Well i've seen and they are lousy. I just can't believe that this group is one race from the Holy Grail. Unreal

TheSpyder 05-17-2008 06:15 PM

so how would he compare to the "good ones" from the last 10 years? I say he would be right there.

Spyder

Strategic Mission 05-17-2008 06:16 PM

The others are that bad. The times are pretty much average for the winners of the derby and preakness. Casino will take care of him in 3 weeks.

asudevil 05-17-2008 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder
Is he that good or are the others that bad?

Spyder

This race had only 2 other horses that have won graded stakes. So basically he ran against a bunch of NX2.

SCUDSBROTHER 05-17-2008 08:11 PM

So far, he looks just like many others who have failed in the 3rd leg. They've almost all won the Preakness in dominating performances. The difference I see with this horse though, is he is waiting for orders. Sometimes he seems almost as smart as a dog.

pick4 05-17-2008 08:21 PM

The two horses that Big Brown was stalking through three quarters finished neck and neck in 11th and 12th places . Twenty five lengths behind Big Brown.

2Hot4TV 05-17-2008 08:26 PM

I was on Gayego in the Derby and skipped playing the second jewel, but I will be rooting for Big Brown to to take home the triple crown.

hockey2315 05-17-2008 08:27 PM

Both of them, though, were destined for that fate. . . Gayego was way over the top and was sent too hard (not that that wasn't his best chance to win) and Riley Tucker is clearly not a dirt horse. . . or much of a horse for that matter. . .

SCUDSBROTHER 05-17-2008 08:30 PM

FUNNY CIDE dominated the Preakness,too. Recent history shows the Derby Winners seem to actually peak in the Preakness. They are usually still good enough to win the Preakness or Derby (3 weeks later,) but that isn't the task at hand.

Bobby Fischer 05-17-2008 08:34 PM

He hasn't beaten anything yet, but he is a hell of a horse.

As a fan, you want to see him in a couple of dogfights.

It is highly improbable as his stud value reaches a cieling that he will race for very long, but this is a horse with a talent and a pedigree that is very exciting as far as possibilities.
He could potentially compete with the best classic distance dirt runners in the world and probably, kick @$$ on turf and ANY brand of synthetic as well. You want to see his full ability and actually be challenged.

If the triple crown is his, you almost want to see a PAY-PER-VIEW race made around BIG BROWN and CURLIN, with guaranteed earnings paid to both of those just for showing up, along with some world class invities. - even if it is within the infrastructure of an existing graded stakes event.

SCUDSBROTHER 05-17-2008 08:39 PM

Zenyata, Curlin, and Big Brown in a 10f fight (that would be pretty good.) Somebody in a white robe should make it happen. Winner gets 10 mil. Call it the race of the century.

hockey2315 05-17-2008 09:08 PM

Z-Z-Zenyatta . . . Really?

Fearless Leader 05-17-2008 09:20 PM

Azeri is scheduled to come out of retirement to take on those "boys" in the SUPER CLASSIC. Paulson said she will be fresh and ready off the layoff, and should easily handle the likes of Curlin and Big Brown.

letswastemoney 05-17-2008 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Zenyata, Curlin, and Big Brown in a 10f fight (that would be pretty good.) Somebody in a white robe should make it happen. Winner gets 10 mil. Call it the race of the century.

On a synthetic equalizing surface, Zenyatta would have an outside chance perhaps.

Bobby Fischer 05-17-2008 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Zenyata, Curlin, and Big Brown in a 10f fight (that would be pretty good.) Somebody in a white robe should make it happen. Winner gets 10 mil. Call it the race of the century.

Zenyata would be fun.


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On a synthetic equalizing surface, Zenyatta would have anoutside chance perhaps.

an equalizing synthetic would be awesome if that meant that we also get the top 2 or 3 turf horses in the world to join in.
Keeneland's Poly?

Danzig 05-17-2008 10:23 PM

zenyatta handled dirt at oaklawn...and we know curlin is beatable by a female..:rolleyes:
would be an interesting race. but as far as an 'equalizing' surface...poly horses run well on that, and dirt horses on dirt-but you don't necessarily see anything equal when either set runs on the others' surface.

letswastemoney 05-17-2008 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
zenyatta handled dirt at oaklawn...and we know curlin is beatable by a female..:rolleyes:
would be an interesting race. but as far as an 'equalizing' surface...poly horses run well on that, and dirt horses on dirt-but you don't necessarily see anything equal when either set runs on the others' surface.

Well Curlin has never run on synthetic, so who knows?


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