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AeWingnut 07-23-2006 12:17 PM

Bellamy Road
 
Saw the logon ID and wondered

Whatever happened to Bellamy Road?
Injured?
Retired to Stud
What?

Danzig 07-23-2006 12:24 PM

good morning mr nut!!! how are you? zeigler06 might be a more familiar name to you than my current one....

bellamy road remains in 'training'. he was removed from nick zitos care, and given over to the manager of kinsman farm...name is sexton i believe. altho he is still in trainining, i only know of one recorded work. would love to see him on the track again, as he showed a ton of talent before the derby when he suffered an injury, as well as his fantastic run in the travers before being sidelined for the year.

BellamyRd. 07-23-2006 12:48 PM

yeah, I figure he'll probably be retired
and we'll be left wondering "what if"
which we've been there before w/ so many
but we'll always have Wood!

1st_Saturday_in_May 07-23-2006 01:55 PM

I think he's up to two works now and was going to start in an allowance race at Calder at the end of the month. Dont hold your breath waiting for him though...

Pedigree Ann 07-23-2006 02:14 PM

Tragically mismanaged horse. Had no business running in the Travers without a prep or two. Zito had to know better, must have been Steinbrenner's call. McPeek tried the same thing with Repent a couple of years back with the same result - horse was short just a bit but tried his heart out, finished second, and got hurt again. Even if a colt is a natural stayer, like Repent and Bellamy Road looked to be, they can't be ready for a 10f G1 off of workouts when coming back from injury.

Dunbar 07-24-2006 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
Tragically mismanaged horse. Had no business running in the Travers without a prep or two. Zito had to know better, must have been Steinbrenner's call. McPeek tried the same thing with Repent a couple of years back with the same result - horse was short just a bit but tried his heart out, finished second, and got hurt again. Even if a colt is a natural stayer, like Repent and Bellamy Road looked to be, they can't be ready for a 10f G1 off of workouts when coming back from injury.

Agree with everything you wrote.

--Dunbar

boldruler 07-24-2006 08:58 AM

Bellamy Road will win the Breeders Cup Classic. :)

blackthroatedwind 07-24-2006 09:00 AM

When latest Training Wizard Ed Sexton took over his training ( and final unfortunate nail in his coffin ) he proclaimed, among many stupid comments, that he was responsible for " all " the decisions involving the horse last year. Thus, I guess the Travers experiment would have to fall squarely in his lap.

Personally, I feel worse about this horse than I think I have ever felt about any horse. I just know he's a monster, and would love to have seen him even get a chance to definitively prove it ( or disprove it so we would know one way or the other ), and this guy Sexton has pretty much secured that that will never happen. There are so few genuinely good horses these days that to see this one wasted, especially due to completely unwarranted and unearned arrogance, is a true shame.

Bold Brooklynite 07-24-2006 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
Tragically mismanaged horse. Had no business running in the Travers without a prep or two. Zito had to know better, must have been Steinbrenner's call. McPeek tried the same thing with Repent a couple of years back with the same result - horse was short just a bit but tried his heart out, finished second, and got hurt again. Even if a colt is a natural stayer, like Repent and Bellamy Road looked to be, they can't be ready for a 10f G1 off of workouts when coming back from injury.

Yes ... here we go ... Little Annie ... the Pigaree Princess ...

... is now a better trainer than Nick Zito and Ken McPeek.

Hey Nicky ... take those Kentucky Derby, Preakness, and Belmont Stakes trophies off your mantle ... and give them to the Pigaree Princess ...

... and in return ... she'll tell you what a great stallion Sir Gallahad was.

Yeah ... that'd be a fair exchange.

Bold Brooklynite 07-24-2006 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
When latest Training Wizard Ed Sexton took over his training ( and final unfortunate nail in his coffin ) he proclaimed, among many stupid comments, that he was responsible for " all " the decisions involving the horse last year. Thus, I guess the Travers experiment would have to fall squarely in his lap.

Personally, I feel worse about this horse than I think I have ever felt about any horse. I just know he's a monster, and would love to have seen him even get a chance to definitively prove it ( or disprove it so we would know one way or the other ), and this guy Sexton has pretty much secured that that will never happen. There are so few genuinely good horses these days that to see this one wasted, especially due to completely unwarranted and unearned arrogance, is a true shame.

But ... but ... but ... Pigaree Annie says Nicky doesn't know how to train a horse ...

... you believe her, doncha?

After all ... she knows everything Sir Gallahad did in the 1930's.

Rupert Pupkin 07-24-2006 09:43 AM

I don't think things are looking too good for BR. It will be a surprise if he ever runs again. They are trying to bring him back but if you take a look at his work tab it looks like they're having a difficult time with him. Every time he works, he need 3 weeks to recover. His first work was almost two months ago and he's only had two works since then.
If he does somehow make it back, don't expect him to last for more than a race or two.
It's too bad that we never got to see what this horse was really capable of. He had a ton of talent.

Bold Brooklynite 07-24-2006 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
I don't think things are looking too good for BR. It will be a surprise if he ever runs again. They are trying to bring him back but if you take a look at his work tab it looks like they're having a difficult time with him. Every time he works, he need 3 weeks to recover. His first work was almost two months ago and he's only had two works since then.
If he does somehow make it back, don't expect him to last for more than a race or two.
It's too bad that we never got to see what this horse was really capable of. He had a ton of talent.

You should be aware of the Rockport Harbor/Bellamy Road "Lifetime Starts" Under/Over Pool.

Back in April 2005 ... on another forum ... someone mentioned the future prospects of both horses. I then created a scenario in which I set 9.5 as the "under/over" number for the combined total of all future lifetime starts for both horses.

The actual number of starts for both horses ... over the 17+ months since then ... is 4

So .. which way would you bet against a total of 9.5 starts for both horses ... "under" or "over"?

Dunbar 07-24-2006 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite
But ... but ... but ... Pigaree Annie says Nicky doesn't know how to train a horse ...

... you believe her, doncha?

After all ... she knows everything Sir Gallahad did in the 1930's.

You need to learn how to read better. What she said was that it was probably Steinbrenner's call to run BR in the Travers. Her assumption was that Zito is too good a trainer to make that kind of mistake without being given direct orders from Steinbrenner. Or perhaps you think Steinbrenner is a hands off owner, sort of the way he has always treated the Yankees.

You are so eager to attack Ann that you don't bother really reading the post.

--Dunbar

Bold Brooklynite 07-24-2006 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunbar
You are so eager to attack Ann that you don't bother really reading the post.

Ummm ... do you mean in the same way that she doesn't bother to really read my posts?

slotdirt 07-24-2006 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite
Ummm ... do you mean in the same way that she doesn't bother to really read my posts?

Wait, people read your posts?

Cajungator26 07-24-2006 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt
Wait, people read your posts?

Unfortunately, they do.

Danzig 07-24-2006 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt
Wait, people read your posts?


lol nice, very nice.

Seattleallstar 07-24-2006 04:04 PM

i thought BellamyRd was in KY

BellamyRd. 07-24-2006 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
i thought BellamyRd was in KY


LOL, the man, not the horse
although he'll be joining me here soon
perhaps with my degree in equine sci
I can get a job holding his penis!
"so, Mr. S it's so nice to meet you...
what do you do?"
"oh just make sure BR's erection gets in the right place"
"how charming"
"hey it's what I do, and I'm damn good at it!"


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