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the_fat_man 05-03-2008 05:56 PM

Reynolds and Pompa
 
At least Pompa retained 25% of Big Brown. Hard to know when to hold and when to fold; that's why there's insurance.

Interesting question would be if Reynolds would've gotten the job done with the big horse.

outofthebox 05-03-2008 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
At least Pompa retained 25% of Big Brown. Hard to know when to hold and when to fold; that's why there's insurance.

Interesting question would be if Reynolds would've gotten the job done with the big horse.

If he stayed out of the horses way, i think yes. This is an exceptional colt.

The Bid 05-03-2008 08:19 PM

TFM, I dont think Reynolds would have done half of what Dutrow has done. Any horse of Reynold's I have seen have terrible feet, thrushed, etc. We will never know, but with BB said feet problems chances are they would have gotten worse in his care.

RolloTomasi 05-03-2008 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
TFM, I dont think Reynolds would have done half of what Dutrow has done. Any horse of Reynold's I have ever seen has terrible feet, thrushed, etc. We will never know, but with BB said feet problems chances are they would have gotten worse in his care.

Are you the blacksmith that checks the shoes before they go to the paddock?

The Bid 05-03-2008 08:45 PM

No I claimed 3 from him between 25-50, and all the shoe work was terrible, and all the feet were thrushed beyond comprehension.

Whomever was taking care of those horses or doing the blacksmith work may want to think about going into another line of work

pick4 05-03-2008 09:48 PM

Rick Dutrow Jr. is one of the few trainers that excels with the cheapest horses at a race track and the very best horses at the highest level.
His record speaks for itself. I don't think Big Brown would have traveled the Derby Trail if IEAH did not purchase him and hand over the reigns to Dutrow Jr.

RolloTomasi 05-03-2008 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pick4
Rick Dutrow Jr. is one of the few trainers that excels with the cheapest horses at a race track and the very best horses at the highest level.
His record speaks for itself. I don't think Big Brown would have traveled the Derby Trail if IEAH did not purchase him and hand over the reigns to Dutrow Jr.

I didn't read too many Big Brown articles leading up to this race. Was Dutrow always targeting the Derby? Wasn't his 3yo debut supposed to be run on turf?

pick4 05-03-2008 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
I didn't read too many Big Brown articles leading up to this race. Was Dutrow always targeting the Derby? Wasn't his 3yo debut supposed to be run on turf?

Go back in Steve's archives and listen to the Dutrow Jr interview. He was questioned by Steve Haskin and Steve Byk.

http://www.thoroughbredracingradione...y=31&Itemid=35 HOUR TWO

The Bid 05-03-2008 10:02 PM

Rollo why the nasty tone today? You lose a big bet?

Why does anyone buy a 2/3yo who wins a debut by 11?

RolloTomasi 05-03-2008 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Rollo why the nasty tone today? You lose a big bet?

Why does anyone buy a 3yo who wins a debut by 11?

The blacksmith thing was a dig, but I figured you had first hand knowledge of Reynold's footwork else you wouldn't be crazy enough to post about it, just was trying to get you to back up your statement.

The Big Brown thing wasn't meant to be nasty. His first start for Reynolds was on grass, and his 3yo debut several months later was carded for the grass. With that information alone (I mentioned I didn't read any articles about him) you'd be hard pressed to think that his connections were eyeing a main track campaign.

Oh, and I did lose today but I bet the race yesterday so it almost feels like I didn't lose at all. Of course, it doesn't feel like I won, either...

the_fat_man 05-04-2008 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
No I claimed 3 from him between 25-50, and all the shoe work was terrible, and all the feet were thrushed beyond comprehension.

Whomever was taking care of those horses or doing the blacksmith work may want to think about going into another line of work

It's interesting reading this, 'cause I've always felt that Reynolds' horses have just about the worst action this side of those of Ribaudo. (Excluding cheaper stock, of course.)

They never seem to run straight in the lane.

Danzig 05-04-2008 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pick4
Rick Dutrow Jr. is one of the few trainers that excels with the cheapest horses at a race track and the very best horses at the highest level.
His record speaks for itself. I don't think Big Brown would have traveled the Derby Trail if IEAH did not purchase him and hand over the reigns to Dutrow Jr.

would that be his record of drug positives? dutrow said regarding his suspensions that 'some he deserved, some he didn't'. didn't seem very apologetic at all about it.
they say sometimes bad things happen to good people...seems the reverse is true as well.

it's just great that two trainers all over the press right now with their big horses are many-times over cheaters. my son asked me yesterday why he was still training if he'd been caught so often. i just snorted while deleting the derby coverage from my t.v.
because,eric, no one cares. that's why. they talk about getting tougher, while turning a blind eye. it's all about the winning.


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