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jcs11204 04-13-2008 06:06 PM

Commentator ?
 
Anyone know where he is going ? Thought he was running in the Carter, obviously he did not. Where is the monster pointing ?

ateamstupid 04-13-2008 06:19 PM

Met Mile, where he'll run up the track if he doesn't get the lead as usual.

jcs11204 04-13-2008 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Met Mile, where he'll run up the track if he doesn't get the lead as usual.

i am excited......
he is a different horse, he is a freak
is the met a definite ?

ateamstupid 04-13-2008 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
i am excited......
he is a different horse, he is a freak
is the met a definite ?

That's the last I heard. And I don't know what you mean by "different horse". To me, he's still the same very fast one-dimensional runner he's always been.

jcs11204 04-13-2008 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
That's the last I heard. And I don't know what you mean by "different horse". To me, he's still the same very fast one-dimensional runner he's always been.

are you as excited as me ? i read that the whitney is the major goal.... that really pumps me up, maybe horse of the year campaign if curlin stumbles.

ateamstupid 04-13-2008 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
are you as excited as me ? i read that the whitney is the major goal.... that really pumps me up, maybe horse of the year campaign if curlin stumbles.

Excited for the return of a seven-year old sprinter that quits every time he doesn't get the lead?

jcs11204 04-13-2008 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Excited for the return of a seven-year old sprinter that quits every time he doesn't get the lead?

i love the difference of opinion, you say that
i say easily the best horse in the world, not named curlin, and i still think he could speed pop curlin up to 1 1/8

ArlJim78 04-13-2008 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
i love the difference of opinion, you say that
i say easily the best horse in the world, not named curlin, and i still think he could speed pop curlin up to 1 1/8

of course you also thought Curlin was in over his head in Dubai.

SOREHOOF 04-13-2008 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Excited for the return of a seven-year old sprinter that quits every time he doesn't get the lead?

If he gets it he's awful hard to catch! The handicap division looks a little weak. He could steal the Whitney!

jcs11204 04-13-2008 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF
If he gets it he's awful hard to catch! The handicap division looks a little weak. He could steal the Whitney!

he could steal a lot more then that... the met does not make much sense to me, there could be a lot of early speed. why not races like the pimlico special, stephen foster, where he could be lone speed, or if not lone, at least the speed of the speed

ateamstupid 04-13-2008 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF
If he gets it he's awful hard to catch! The handicap division looks a little weak. He could steal the Whitney!

Oh, there's no doubt that he does some awesome things when he gets to the front. He's very fast and could indeed steal the Whitney, I just have a dislike for horses like him who rack up giant figures when loose and then spit the bit when they don't get their way.

JJP 04-13-2008 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
i love the difference of opinion, you say that
i say easily the best horse in the world, not named curlin, and i still think he could speed pop curlin up to 1 1/8

I can think of several horses who are better than he is that aren't named Curlin; Tiago and Heatseeker come to mind. I'd take Electrify over him. I'm sure there's another 5 or so if I stopped to think about it. Commentator is a one dimensional sort who thrills those who only see speed figures and don't understand how the trip affects the figure.

jcs11204 04-13-2008 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP
I can think of several horses who are better than he is that aren't named Curlin; Tiago and Heatseeker come to mind. I'd take Electrify over him. I'm sure there's another 5 or so if I stopped to think about it. Commentator is a one dimensional sort who thrills those who only see speed figures and don't understand how the trip affects the figure.

your very funny tonight, tiago and heatseeker are nice horses, but unless they have a rabit, they never get to commentator.

JJP 04-13-2008 09:17 PM

Has Commentator beat anyone of note since the summer of 2005? I think we all know the answer to that.

jcs11204 04-13-2008 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP
Has Commentator beat anyone of note since the summer of 2005? I think we all know the answer to that.

ok slick... say there is a monster field of

commentator
heatseeker
tiago
curlin
grasshopper
circular quay
go between


who is near commentator early ? NO ONE, he is dangerous in any race vs anyone

philcski 04-13-2008 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Oh, there's no doubt that he does some awesome things when he gets to the front. He's very fast and could indeed steal the Whitney, I just have a dislike for horses like him who rack up giant figures when loose and then spit the bit when they don't get their way.

I love them... makes my job handicapping much easier and profitable!

See: last year's Tom Fool, or 2006 Forego.

NTamm1215 04-13-2008 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
he is dangerous in any race vs anyone

Or is it only in races where you choose a paceless field?

If your only goal is to say that Commentator could bottom out a Grade I field going long then I think you're right. However, until he does it again, everyone should be skeptical. Predicting Commentator to win a race like the Whitney is as bold as predicting that Chatain will win the Forego.

NT

cmorioles 04-14-2008 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
ok slick... say there is a monster field of

commentator
heatseeker
tiago
curlin
grasshopper
circular quay
go between


who is near commentator early ? NO ONE, he is dangerous in any race vs anyone

In a match race, Curlin would beat Commentator at virtually any distance. Adding others to the field won't change anything.

letswastemoney 04-14-2008 05:08 AM

grasshopper would press commentator the whole way and he would just fold like he always does. curlin would lay 3rd early on and pick up the victory. commentator is 7 years old and maybe he could beat that field when he was younger, but it's doubtful he could beat that many consistent runners in one field now.

zippyneedsawin 04-14-2008 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
he could steal a lot more then that... the met does not make much sense to me, there could be a lot of early speed. why not races like the pimlico special, stephen foster, where he could be lone speed, or if not lone, at least the speed of the speed

I like Commentator too.. but that's a pipe dream. He needs to stay at 8 furlongs or less to have a chance these days.


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