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Kasept 04-12-2008 11:18 AM

West Point/Violette finished
 
Without much notice or fanfare, West Point yesterday appears to have taken any horses they had with Rick Violette and moved them all to Kiaran McLaughlin...

East Coast rep Rich Cristiano let go as well..

jcs11204 04-12-2008 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Without much notice or fanfare, West Point yesterday appears to have taken any horses they had with Rick Violette and moved them all to Kiaran McLaughlin...

dream rush ?

Kasept 04-12-2008 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
dream rush ?

WPTB sold Dream Rush last fall... Injured currently and still with Violette.

The Bid 04-12-2008 11:47 AM

Took them too long

jcs11204 04-12-2008 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Took them too long

why is that ?

Kasept 04-12-2008 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
why is that ?

Because Violette doesn't win.

Storm Cadet 04-12-2008 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Without much notice or fanfare, West Point yesterday appears to have taken any horses they had with Rick Violette and moved them all to Kiaran McLaughlin...

East Coast rep Rich Cristiano let go as well..

Wonder whats that about? He was Terry Finley's right hand guy for many years!:eek:

jcs11204 04-12-2008 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Because Violette doesn't win.

i dont have his stats in front of me, but i am pretty sure whenever i am looking at a form or any pp's the guy is normaly around 23 percent, thats not winning ?

The Bid 04-12-2008 06:55 PM

WP has one more trainer change they need to make to be successful. This was a good move. Took them far too long

No JCC, he never wins when hes supposed. He has good horses and consistantly chokes. He basically sucks

cmorioles 04-12-2008 06:58 PM

He is about 15% this year.

jcs11204 04-12-2008 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
WP has one more trainer change they need to make to be successful. This was a good move. Took them far too long

No JCC, he never wins when hes supposed. He has good horses and consistantly chokes. He basically sucks

i am drawing a blank on who jcc is ?

Danzig 04-12-2008 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
i am drawing a blank on who jcc is ?

it's you-a typo with the second 'c'

jcs11204 04-12-2008 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
it's you-a typo with the second 'c'

ok but still who is it ?>

Danzig 04-12-2008 11:33 PM

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ok but still who is it ?>

lol

he was talking to YOU. you're jcc!

Danzig 04-12-2008 11:35 PM

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jcs11204 04-13-2008 12:03 AM

holy ****, i just finally got it.
time for bed
HAHA LOL

parsixfarms 04-13-2008 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Because Violette doesn't win.

Compared to whom? If memory serves me, he won two grade one's (Dream Rush) and a grade two (High Finance) for these connections last year. I don't have statistics in front of me, but Violette's strike rate over the past few years has consistently been between 15-20%. It's comments like these that reinforce the erroneous perception that there are only a handful of trainers that know what to do with a decent horse.

the_fat_man 04-13-2008 08:00 PM

I for one am a HUGE supporter of Violette. It seems that he has taught all his horses the art of the SUCKUP. Yeah, being able to suckup, while taking alot of money, and still not winning as many of these races as the SUCKUP might indicate, is a sign of a very good trainer.

I might be wrong but I believe he still has Klaravich on board. I mean, Klaravich has to be just about the worst at picking horses out there. They buy 'em, Violette teaches them how to suckup, while sucking up the public's money, and they still can't win. But they're all hyped.

Could you image Lear's Princess in this dude's hands? Enough said.

parsixfarms 04-13-2008 08:06 PM

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Could you image Lear's Princess in this dude's hands? Enough said.

Hasn't Lear's Princess run last in two of her last three starts in McLaughlin's hands? He couldn't do any worse, I suppose.

the_fat_man 04-13-2008 08:17 PM

Last I checked, she ran Dreaming of Ana to a nose, when that one had it all her own way on the front end, and, most recently, 4th behind DoA on a yielding course.

On the other hand, Titan of Industry, has burned up alot of money sucking up behind REAL horses on the turf. Oh, wait, he did beat that STELLAR maiden field at 8:5, didn't he?

But, personally, the race that sticks out in my mind when it comes to Violette is
Immortal Eyes against The Leopard, sprinting at SAR. IE had everything his own way and quit like a PUNK just before the wire.


Nothing personal with RV. KM is certainly a much better trainer.


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