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wiphan 04-08-2008 09:23 AM

Lasix
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ill&id=3324301

I would love to see what people's opinion of this article are. I am certainly not a horse trainer or vet, but I think the article brings up some good points.

Cannon Shell 04-08-2008 10:49 AM

I would comment but I have a rule against reading Bill Finley...

wiphan 04-08-2008 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I would comment but I have a rule against reading Bill Finley...

Bill Finley is an award-winning racing writer whose work has appeared in the New York Times, USA Today and Sports Illustrated.

jcs11204 04-08-2008 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by wiphan
Bill Finley is an award-winning racing writer whose work has appeared in the New York Times, USA Today and Sports Illustrated.

i dont think he cares.

wiphan 04-08-2008 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
i dont think he cares.

Really

GPK 04-08-2008 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
:rolleyes:


I think Lasix is great...I had that eye surgery done years ago:o

fpsoxfan 04-08-2008 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
According to Scavs and Cajun, after seeing the s you were hitting on this summer, you should go get the surgery again.



LOL.

Scav 04-08-2008 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
According to Scavs and Cajun, after seeing the girls you were hitting on this summer, you should go get the surgery again.


:eek:

I would like to clarify my statement in regards to this, sir.....

He wasn't necessarily hitting on them, he was trying to get others to hit on them.

I, myself, was just having plesant conversation with the people of Saratoga, while running around like a bumbling idiot, Kev mistaked that for harpooning, or whatever guys do to overly large, but cute, woman.

cmorioles 04-08-2008 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I would comment but I have a rule against reading Bill Finley...

I wonder if he has a rule against betting on your horses.

Scav 04-08-2008 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles
I wonder if he has a rule against betting on your horses.

He'd be a fool when Chuck goes and wins at 25% this year.....

cmorioles 04-08-2008 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
He'd be a fool when Chuck goes and wins at 25% this year.....

I honestly hope he does. It was only a joke as I am sure Chuck will realize.

Scav 04-08-2008 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles
I honestly hope he does. It was only a joke as I am sure Chuck will realize.

I know, but just throwing it out there.

SIMON 4 LIFE!!!(Doing the ole Xpac/Hogan thing they used to do in the WWF)

ateamstupid 04-08-2008 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I know, but just throwing it out there.

SIMON 4 LIFE!!!(Doing the ole Xpac/Hogan thing they used to do in the WWF)

WCW.

Riot 04-08-2008 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wiphan
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ill&id=3324301

I would love to see what people's opinion of this article are. I am certainly not a horse trainer or vet, but I think the article brings up some good points.

Well, he's on a bit of a bandbox, beating his chest for rightousness, no? :rolleyes:

It's been found that anywhere from 55% to 80% of horses bleed after a race - worldwide. All countries. Even the ones that don't race on lasix.

It's known that those with more severe bleeding don't place as highly (win) as those with less severe bleeding.

Horses that bleed can easily have permanent damage to their lungs (related to severity and frequency).

If a horse bleeds, it can't race in other parts of the world (= wastage). If it bleeds in the US, it can very often continue to race.

Lasix doesn't mask anything, really, regarding other drugs. Detection nowadays is far to sophisticated to be influenced by a little dilution in the urine.

Exercise-induced pulmonary hemorrage (EIPH) is thought nowadays to have multiple contributory factors, high intrapulmonary pressure being only one (lasix is supposed to attenuate the exercise-induced rise in pulmonary capillary pressures that contribute to bleeding into the lungs).

You might google "EIPH" and "Lasix", and read stuff from the AVMA, AAEP, on The Horse website, etc.

I don't think the use of lasix, or not, is a simple black and white issue.

TheSpyder 04-08-2008 04:32 PM

I have a Royal lasix intolurant condition.

Have to stay away from Dairy Queens.

Cannon Shell 04-08-2008 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles
I wonder if he has a rule against betting on your horses.

i doubt he bets

GPK 04-08-2008 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
I would like to clarify my statement in regards to this, sir.....

He wasn't necessarily hitting on them, he was trying to get others to hit on them.

I, myself, was just having plesant conversation with the people of Saratoga, while running around like a bumbling idiot, Kev mistaked that for harpooning, or whatever guys do to overly large, but cute, woman.


Glad you clarified that.

I have done some hogging in my past, thanks to some incredibly wonderful beer goggles. Those goggles have been retired, so hopefully so has my hogging:eek:


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