Hambletonian Thread
 

What do people think about the race this year? Mr Pine Chip looked good and so did RC Royalty. But the horse I am going to wager on is Jonny Muscles just because of the name.

I think Harness racing is awful. That is what I think.

Thanks for your opinion.

Euro,

when I've talked to harness trainers and owners who admit cheating on a regular basis, it pretty much ruins any reason to even consider harness racing.

I know it goes on, but this is the Hambletonian. This race and the Little Brown Jug are two races I enjoy each year when it comes to harness. It is fun to try and handicap and I dont think there is cheating in these two races.

That I would agree with, b/c when there is that kind of money involved you are pretty much assured everyone is trying and or drugging if they can....So I guess that's fair?

I like the way Mr Pine Chip is training. Hes sitting on a peak effort. Johnny Muscles could prove tough in the stretch, he may be the pocket rocket but I dont think he has the muscles to beat Mr Pine Chip.

Yeah I think it is fair. Just like I dont bet Penn National, Beulah etc etc because those tracks have had a history of race fixing rumors over the years. But with the BIG money races, I dont think that much cheating goes on.

I agree 100% Gander. If Muscles can get the pocket then he might get to Chip, but Chip should have the race his own way.

I've actually had very good luck betting the big harness races over the years.

Me too Gander. I think the payouts are awesome. I know I won HUGE on Windsong's Legacy back in 2004. I didnt hit last years race. In fact, I didnt even come close. But 2004 was a very very good year for me.

Euro, do you mind listing the entries for the Hambletonian? I can't access it from work because all of the "good" sites are blocked. Thanks.

Well they still need to run the eliminations but here is the probable list.


LAST WEEK, EARLY LINE, HORSE, TRAINER, OWNER

2, 2-1, MR PINE CHIP, Trond Smedshammer, Joe Sbrocco, Southwind Farm 1, 5-2, CHOCOLATIER, Doug Ackerman, Doug Ackerman Stbs, Southwind Farm, Lindy Farms 3, 4-1, BLUE MAC LAD, Trond Smedshammer, Einari Kalle Vidgren 4, 5-1, HERE COMES HERBIE, Trond Smedshammer, Cutting Edge Stable 8, 6-1, R C ROYALTY, Dan Daley, Raymond W. J. Campbell, Jr. 9, 10-1, GLIDEMASTER, Blair Burgess, Brittany Farms, Burgess, Burgess, Cohen 5, 12-1, CAPETOWN HALL, Jimmy Takter, Takter, Fielding, Dr. G. Brown, Oweida 7, 12-1, JOHNNY MUSCLES, Jan Johnson, Arden Homestead St., Bertmark, Lombardini NR, 12-1, ALGIERS HALL, John Stark, Jr., Smith, Stark, Jr., Smith, McTygue NR, 15-1, BERTO PRIMO, C. Kevin Thomas, C. Kevin Thomas, The Berto Partners

I go this from the link below:

http://sports.yahoo.com/rah/news?slu...v=st&type=lgns

Thanks, Euro... I can't even access Yahoo sports... such bullshiat. :mad:

Trond is loaded once again. Do you know if he is driving any of these himself? He did cherrypick Windsong if I do remember correctly.

Trond won driving Windsong's Legacy in 2004. Brian Sears was the driver of Mr Pine Chip last time out. But I am not sure if Trond will be driving this year. Heck, he has 3 potential starters so I could see him getting into the seat.

Yeah that is some crap. Luckily I dont have any blocks--ha ha.