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Rupert Pupkin 03-10-2008 10:20 PM

The Friend's Lake Two Year Olds Look Pretty Good
 
I have seen at least 4 different Friend's Lake Two Year Olds that look like they can run. I don't know if any of them are stars but they definitely look like runners. I wasn't a huge fan of Friend's Lake as a racehorse but I'm liking what I'm seeing so far from his offspring.
I finally saw a nice Pleasantly Perfect Two Year Old. There is a PP filly at Barrett's who looks like she can run. She is the first decent PP that I've seen.

Cajungator26 03-10-2008 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
I have seen at least 4 different Friend's Lake Two Year Olds that look like they can run. I don't know if any of them are stars but they definitely look like runners. I wasn't a huge fan of Friend's Lake as a racehorse but I'm liking what I'm seeing so far from his offspring.
I finally saw a nice Pleasantly Perfect Two Year Old. There is a PP filly at Barrett's who looks like she can run. She is the first decent PP that I've seen.

Same thing I said, Rupert. Hip 33 from last month's two year old in training sale in Ocala was a very nice looking horse. He went for 450k to Padua.

Check him out:

http://www.obssales.com/febpreview/

Also, let me know what you think of hip 93 (an Indian Charlie colt purchased for West Point.)

Rupert Pupkin 03-10-2008 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Same thing I said, Rupert. Hip 33 from last month's two year old in training sale in Ocala was a very nice looking horse. He went for 450k to Padua.

Yes, I remember that horse. He worked really well. His knee action was slightly high. He actually moved a little like Barbaro.

Cajungator26 03-10-2008 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
Yes, I remember that horse. He worked really well. His knee action was slightly high. He actually moved a little like Barbaro.

Yeah, he did a little bit. Nice looking colt... looked like a real runner.

PPerfectfan 03-10-2008 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
I have seen at least 4 different Friend's Lake Two Year Olds that look like they can run. I don't know if any of them are stars but they definitely look like runners. I wasn't a huge fan of Friend's Lake as a racehorse but I'm liking what I'm seeing so far from his offspring.
I finally saw a nice Pleasantly Perfect Two Year Old. There is a PP filly at Barrett's who looks like she can run. She is the first decent PP that I've seen."]

Heyyyy. You gonna have to give the PP's alittle while to mature. I am just glad that alot of them are being kept by there breeders, that way they will be given the time to mature. I just love him, as my screename shows!! :D

Rupert Pupkin 03-10-2008 10:46 PM

[quote=PPerfectfan]
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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
I have seen at least 4 different Friend's Lake Two Year Olds that look like they can run. I don't know if any of them are stars but they definitely look like runners. I wasn't a huge fan of Friend's Lake as a racehorse but I'm liking what I'm seeing so far from his offspring.
I finally saw a nice Pleasantly Perfect Two Year Old. There is a PP filly at Barrett's who looks like she can run. She is the first decent PP that I've seen.

Heyyyy. You gonna have to give the PP's alittle while to mature. I am just glad that alot of them are being kept by there breeders, that way they will be given the time to mature. I just love him, as my screename shows!! :D

Pleasantly Perfect was a great racehorse. I was a fan of his. I don't blame you for being a big PP fan.

jcs11204 03-11-2008 12:15 AM

450k for a friends lake............. does not make much sense to me.

Indian Charlie 03-11-2008 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
450k for a friends lake............. does not make much sense to me.

looks like 2009 (or was that a yearling, which would be 2010) is the year we'll have a triple crown winner.

Pedigree Ann 03-11-2008 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
450k for a friends lake............. does not make much sense to me.

Who's the dam, what does it look like, how fast did it work? These are also factors in how much the horse goes for at a 2yo in training sale. Makes more sense than $16 million for a Forestry, anyway.

Danzig 03-11-2008 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
450k for a friends lake............. does not make much sense to me.

how surprising.

docicu3 03-11-2008 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
Who's the dam, what does it look like, how fast did it work? These are also factors in how much the horse goes for at a 2yo in training sale. Makes more sense than $16 million for a Forestry, anyway.


Speaking of 16 million horses has anyone heard how "he who must remain nameless" is taking to being a man on the prowl??

cowgirlintexas 03-11-2008 07:04 AM

What do the Smarty Jones babies look like? Anyone seen any? Are'nt they due to start this year?

The Indomitable DrugS 03-11-2008 07:12 AM

They haven't been setting the track on fire at the 2yo sales.

And speaking of scorched earth - William Tecumseh Sherman was far too kind to those who commited treason if you ask me.

jcs11204 03-11-2008 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
how surprising.

if i remember correctly friends lake won 1 meaningful race in his career, and his breeding is not very good, i dont have pp's but i am pretty sure. 450k seems like a lot, what is his stud fee ? cant be more then 15k

The Indomitable DrugS 03-11-2008 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
if i remember correctly friends lake won 1 meaningful race in his career, and his breeding is not very good, i dont have pp's but i am pretty sure. 450k seems like a lot

The horse in question sold for $140K as a yearling.

He obviously was impressive in his preview and has moved forward the last six months.

slotdirt 03-11-2008 08:06 AM

How is it so hard to figure out why a Friends Lake is selling for $450k? He was a GI winner by a GI winner out of a GI winner. Doesn't seem entirely unlikely to me.

GenuineRisk 03-11-2008 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
if i remember correctly friends lake won 1 meaningful race in his career, and his breeding is not very good, i dont have pp's but i am pretty sure. 450k seems like a lot, what is his stud fee ? cant be more then 15k

15K is his fee. The owner of American Thoroughbred Review threw a fit over his stud fee back in 2005:

http://thoroughbredreview.com/FriendsLake3.htm

The Indomitable DrugS 03-11-2008 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
How is it so hard to figure out why a Friends Lake is selling for $450k? He was a GI winner by a GI winner out of a GI winner. Doesn't seem entirely unlikely to me.

Not to over simplify it too much, but think of it this way - the horse sells for $140K six months ago because of his breeding, confirmation, and how he vets.

Last month - he gets entered in a 2yo sale. He flashes an impressive physique and works a furlong in 10 seconds flat ... showing excellent raw speed for a horse bred to get a distance of ground. He sells for 450K.

Had the same horse worked his furlong in 11 flat and not moved well in the process - he'd have most likely been A.) scratched from the sale. or B.) sold or RNA'd for about half of what he sold for as a yearling.

slotdirt 03-11-2008 08:32 AM

I don't disagree with you in the least. I'm just saying, in the grand scheme of things, is it really so unbelievable that a Friends Lake would sell for $450k? I would suggest it is not.

The Indomitable DrugS 03-11-2008 08:40 AM

Zayat stables bought a Friends Lake yearling for $600K at Keeneland September last year.

The $140K yearling turned $450K 2yo buy that is talked about in this thread was only the 6th most expensive Friend's Lake yearling of 64 offered at public auction.

I agree with Rupert that his first crop are showing significantly more speed than what would be expected from them during these sales drills.


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