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sumitas 07-15-2006 04:32 PM

Litf
 
he's giving up some weight this race

SentToStud 07-15-2006 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
he's giving up some weight this race

He does seem a fair bet to show. lol. the Dubai jumpers drowning without their cash.

sumitas 07-15-2006 04:39 PM

maybe they'll try to get some back on LITF to show here

sumitas 07-15-2006 04:41 PM

numbers i'm seeing shows a lot of fans out of money.

Rupert Pupkin 07-15-2006 05:07 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if they retire LITF. Gilchrist said they were thinking of retiring him if he didn't win his last race. He won that day at Churchill. Gilchrist said the horse has some physical problems this year which he didn't have last year. I wouldn't be surprised if this was his last race.

Gander 07-15-2006 05:25 PM

Nice comeback race by Pomeroy, the horse who really excels at the Spa. Wondering where he is pointed to, perhaps the Forego?

Scav 07-15-2006 07:01 PM

At least he will probably get to run at equal weight now, he was giving most of this field 10lbs....No idea if it will help but all today proves is that how hard sprinting is on these horses, which makes for great prices

Bold Brooklynite 07-15-2006 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
I wouldn't be surprised if they retire LITF. Gilchrist said they were thinking of retiring him if he didn't win his last race. He won that day at Churchill. Gilchrist said the horse has some physical problems this year which he didn't have last year. I wouldn't be surprised if this was his last race.

Retiring this fraud would be the smartest thing to do.

At least now .... they can still find and convince some gullible investors into believing that he's the real goods ... and was just "unlucky" or "injured" in his only two starts against quality sprinters.

If they race him any more ... even the most gullible rubes will finally catch on.

"Yup ... he won the Eclipse Award last year ... gonna make a real fine stallion."

Five Star Derek 07-15-2006 10:09 PM

Henny Hughes is the best sprinter in the country now in my opinion. Sure he didn't beat anybody in his first start back at Monmouth but it didn't make a difference. LITF may not be as good as some people have thought but he's not a total fraud. He obviously is not at his best right now. I've heard that he is suffering from a quarter crack along with some other stuff. When healthy, he can compete with the best and win a few. He padded his record in the begining which created the hype. I'm hoping LITF can get healthy again and compete at his best.

1st_Saturday_in_May 07-15-2006 10:14 PM

Hmmm, a fraud. Well I'll take any fraud that is a Grade 1 winner and has earned the cash he's won in his career. Has anything been confirmed about him being reshoed before the race and an injured heel coming out - not trying to speculate but that's what I've heard...

Bold Brooklynite 07-15-2006 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st_Saturday_in_May
Hmmm, a fraud. Well I'll take any fraud that is a Grade 1 winner and has earned the cash he's won in his career. Has anything been confirmed about him being reshoed before the race and an injured heel coming out - not trying to speculate but that's what I've heard...

No ... the wind was against him ... and his jockey got on backwards.

1st_Saturday_in_May 07-15-2006 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite
No ... the wind was against him ... and his jockey got on backwards.


Ahh, the same problems Mayan King had ;)

Bold Brooklynite 07-16-2006 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 1st_Saturday_in_May
Ahh, the same problems Mayan King had ;)

No ... Mayan King ate a sfogliatella which was mistakenly left near him in the paddock before the race ...

... and that weighed him down more than 160 pounds on his back would have.

Just wait and see what a sfogliatella-free Mayan King does next time!

Downthestretch55 07-16-2006 11:54 AM

In the fraud's own words, "because their lives are dark and bitter without the inspiration and enlightenment".

Danzig 07-16-2006 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite
Retiring this fraud would be the smartest thing to do.

At least now .... they can still find and convince some gullible investors into believing that he's the real goods ... and was just "unlucky" or "injured" in his only two starts against quality sprinters.

If they race him any more ... even the most gullible rubes will finally catch on.

"Yup ... he won the Eclipse Award last year ... gonna make a real fine stallion."

you'd think an outstanding handicapper such as yourself would want him to keep running--that way you could get a better price on your winners.

lol oh, wait. there's not much betting in this country for those who predict a loser, rather than naming a winner, is there?? you brave soul you, bucking the odds of choosing one loser from many, rather than taking the easy way of picking the one winner!

Downthestretch55 07-16-2006 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
you'd think an outstanding handicapper such as yourself would want him to keep running--that way you could get a better price on your winners.

lol oh, wait. there's not much betting in this country for those who predict a loser, rather than naming a winner, is there?? you brave soul you, bucking the odds of choosing one loser from many, rather than taking the easy way of picking the one winner!

Winners?
Never saw one from him.
Just "trash talk" from the loser.
Winners?
You're speaking a different language, Danzig.

Funny...most of us are on to this puffed up fraud. Didn't take long.

31lengths 07-16-2006 01:01 PM

Actually, I just got back from Calder and was in the paddock area most of the day yeaterday. He looked like there was something wrong the whole time he was there. He moped and didnt raise his head at all. He was the only one acting like that. I thought something was amiss at that time.

Bold Brooklynite 07-16-2006 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
you'd think an outstanding handicapper such as yourself would want him to keep running--that way you could get a better price on your winners.

lol oh, wait. there's not much betting in this country for those who predict a loser, rather than naming a winner, is there?? you brave soul you, bucking the odds of choosing one loser from many, rather than taking the easy way of picking the one winner!

The entire premise of your question is mistaken. Perhaps you haven't read my past posts ... which is completely understandable.

But I've posted many times that I am not a "handicapper" ... I haven't placed a serious bet on a horse since 1967. I don't have the time that's required to follow day-to-day racing to the extent that's needed in order to be a successful bettor ... and I know it ... that's why I don't bet.

But I do have the time to watch and analyze G1 dirt racing ... which is what I've been doing since 1958 ... and I'm knowledgable enough to recognize when a horse doesn't finish his races with conviction against weak fields ... and is thus very vulnerable against strong fields.

Lost In The Fog is not himself a fraud ... he's just a horse ... it's the over-the-top over-evaluation he was given by naïve goo-goos that was ... and is ... fraudulent.

You do understand that ... don't you?

Downthestretch55 07-16-2006 01:31 PM

Here's my take on this Danzig....

Excuses are for LOSERS!!!
Winners don't have to make up excuses, because they won.

Duh????
See previous post. ^^^


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