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Kasept 02-05-2008 04:27 PM

GP 7 (2/7): Distorted Humor firsters
 
Distorted Humor firster discussed by McLaughlin earlier tonight on ATR drew wide in a 6f MSW... Keep Laughing is a full brother of MSW It's No Joke, though their dam did some of her best running on the grass. Obviously had some issues selling for just $85k..

Understatement, from Pletcher, is half to the good Roar Emotion and cost $1,050,000 at KEE in 2006..


GULFSTREAM 7th (4:11)

6 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds Maiden Special Weight | Purse: $40,000

1 1 Holding the Check Monterrey P Jr Russell Wade 122 15-1
1A 7 Outlaw Singer Fuentes R D Russell Wade 122 15-1
2 2 Outoftheslammer Prado E S Serpe Philip M 122 FTL 10-1
3 3 Asiago Castellano J J Lynch Brian A 122 8-1
4 4 Banana Boat Joe Landry R C Seitz Fred 122 Blk-Off 5-1
5 5 Silence Breaker Smith A E Gleaves Philip A 122 L 6-1
6 6 Morning Theft Velasquez C Trombetta Michael J 122 FTL 10-1
7 8 Understatement Velazquez J R Pletcher Todd A 122 FTL 5-2
8 9 Storm Boot Larry Lezcano J Margolis Steve 122 FTL 10-1
9 10 Keep Laughing Trujillo E McLaughlin Kiaran P 122 FTL 3-1

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-05-2008 05:55 PM

what if i told you they both may not win......./place

the 2/5/6/8..are looking pretty good...

and if i had to pick the winner..it would be the 5

blackthroatedwind 02-05-2008 06:07 PM

It's a ten horse field with nine firsters......what could possibly be a less interesting betting race?

Coach Pants 02-05-2008 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
It's a ten horse field with nine firsters......what could possibly be a less interesting betting race?

Fair Grounds State Bred 15000 maiden claimer.

blackthroatedwind 02-05-2008 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Fair Grounds State Bred 15000 maiden claimer.


Not if at least two of them have run.

the_fat_man 02-05-2008 06:18 PM

I'm a little confused by the happenings down at GP. Seems to me, the same TURF horses that were running at SAR this past summer are all at GP this winter. So, why do we get a race like Thursday's 8th once every 2 weeks? Need the focus be on claiming races? That's what TAM is for.

The same applies to the dirt horses.

Why isn't the racing secretary carding races for these horses?

Bobby Fischer 02-05-2008 06:24 PM

2379 look nice on paper ... depends what kind of price for those

blackthroatedwind 02-05-2008 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Why isn't the racing secretary carding races for these horses?

This is isn't the racing secretary's fault. Obviously he has very little purse money to distribute.

Kasept 02-05-2008 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
This is isn't the racing secretary's fault. Obviously he has very little purse money to distribute.

Great point Andy.. They said before the meet in fact that there was the $1MM purse shortfall from last year they needed to work through and were hopeful that once that was over they would be able to get purses back up over $300,000/day. Recall Hettel saying March was a target.

Linny 02-06-2008 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
I'm a little confused by the happenings down at GP. Seems to me, the same TURF horses that were running at SAR this past summer are all at GP this winter. So, why do we get a race like Thursday's 8th once every 2 weeks? Need the focus be on claiming races? That's what TAM is for.

The same applies to the dirt horses.

Why isn't the racing secretary carding races for these horses?


The racing secretary from Thistledown is writing their races. Last wek I saw $12.5k NW2L claimers, on GRASS.

Of course, he's writing races for he horses that are there. With the guys who handle better stock (Mott, Pletcher, etc) spacing their races further apart, the better allowances just don't fill as easily.

sumitas 02-06-2008 12:17 PM

Keep Laughing $85k 3-1 ML
Understatement $1mil+ 5-2 ML

Interesting observations on the range of values placed on horses.

miraja2 02-06-2008 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
It's a ten horse field with nine firsters......what could possibly be a less interesting betting race?

I actually love betting a race with a bunch of firsters. Playing a race without any past performances can be fun.
I like relying on only pedigrees, trainer trends, workouts, etc for a change. It is certainly a whole different type of handicapping, but I rather enjoy it.

blackthroatedwind 02-06-2008 01:22 PM

I enjoy winning.

the_fat_man 02-06-2008 01:24 PM

I enjoy looking at BOXSCORES rather than actually watching sporting events.

miraja2 02-06-2008 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I enjoy winning.

Oh, well I don't do that very often, so I try to find other ways to enjoy myself in this game.

blackthroatedwind 02-06-2008 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
I enjoy looking at BOXSCORES rather than actually watching sporting events.


I can relate.

blackthroatedwind 02-06-2008 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Oh, well I don't do that very often, so I try to find other ways to enjoy myself in this game.


Not to be a di ck, and I know you're also kidding around, but that's kind of my point about these races.....they're fool's gold. They suck us in because we feel like a detective hunting around for clues and in reality they are the ultimate guessing game ( unless you are genuinely connected to actually good information ) and these races are a losing proposition. But....they suck you in.

The Indomitable DrugS 02-06-2008 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
I enjoy looking at BOXSCORES rather than actually watching sporting events.

Besides finding out who won and lost ... you can't learn a damn thing from a box score....

The major exception being hockey in the regular season.

The box score lists the exact times that the fights happened - and when all the satellite channels show the replays of the games - I'd try to tune in and catch as many as I can.

The Indomitable DrugS 02-06-2008 01:45 PM

I would much rather play a race with 14 first time starters than a turf sprint where the whole field has established form and I have no such sneaky horse.

That's just me though.

blackthroatedwind 02-06-2008 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I would much rather play a race with 14 first time starters than a turf sprint where the whole field has established form and I have no such sneaky horse.

That's just me though.


You also do work that very few people do.


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