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Kasept 02-01-2008 09:50 AM

O'Neill hit with 'shake' charge
 
http://www.drf.com/news/article/91982.html

Doug O'Neill called out by CHRB on an overage.. Horse/specifics not yet released. Gets holding barn and supervision treatment and is eligible for fine/benching as well.

Coach Pants 02-01-2008 10:08 AM

*slaps wrist*

Bad Dougie. Don't do it again or else we'll put you back in detention. Now run along now.

KY_Sasquash 02-01-2008 10:26 AM

Using the "tampering" out. Sure, if its so easy for somebody to throw something into their feed tub why dont they just inject the horse? Isn't somebody always at the barn?

tiggerv 02-01-2008 10:36 AM

Isn't this the 2nd milkshaking charge against O'Neill this year? Always an excuse from these guys too.

This has been probably been posted before but the San Diego newspaper did a pretty nice report on all the cheaters in So Cal this summer.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports...16delmeds.html

Coach Pants 02-01-2008 10:43 AM

When are these guys going to be criminally and civilly charged with fraud? Isn't this exactly what they're doing?

Kasept 02-01-2008 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tiggerv
Isn't this the 2nd milkshaking charge against O'Neill this year? Always an excuse from these guys too.

This has been probably been posted before but the San Diego newspaper did a pretty nice report on all the cheaters in So Cal this summer.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports...16delmeds.html

Had one in '05 according to the DRF piece..

the_fat_man 02-01-2008 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
When are these guys going to be criminally and civilly charged with fraud? Isn't this exactly what they're doing?

Just as soon as some handicappers' group sues them, and, the state racing board, for UNFAIR practice. If there's a chance it'll COST them, they'll take action.

jms62 02-01-2008 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
When are these guys going to be criminally and civilly charged with fraud? Isn't this exactly what they're doing?

Exactly... Aren't trainers who cheat trying to fix the outcome of a sporting event. That is a federal offense.

sumitas 02-01-2008 11:17 AM

Wasn't O'Neil red hot in Cali ? Good point JMS. The law is the law.

Cannon Shell 02-01-2008 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
When are these guys going to be criminally and civilly charged with fraud? Isn't this exactly what they're doing?

Not on a milkshake case. Any good lawyer could easily defeat a milkshake violation in court. That is why the penalties for Milkshaking are set up as they are. An illegal or class 1 drug would be a much better case to charge a guy with. Except the testing is so shoddy that they never catch any of those violations.

tiggerv 02-01-2008 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
Wasn't O'Neil red hot in Cali ? Good point JMS. The law is the law.

He was ice cold at the Hollywood meet and the beginning of SA but in the last couple weeks at SA he has heated back up. He is winning at 14% at the current meet which is pretty much where he usually ends up.


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