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King Glorious 01-23-2008 05:57 PM

This Is Getting Ridiculous
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3210049

Majerus shouldn't be in trouble for this. He's a HIRED employee and he has the right to feel however he wants to. In my opinion, if the bishop had said that he wanted the university to fire him because he's not right for the university, that would be different. But to be upset with him for expressing his personal views is wrong. It was a personal view, not the view of the university.

IrishofNDMan 01-23-2008 06:01 PM

not again...................lol

Danzig 01-23-2008 06:02 PM

why, sure he should. he should be fired. just like imus, just like jacobsen should be. it's the american way these days.







no, seriously. the guy works for them, but he wasn't on the clock. it's ridiculous that no one has any personal time any more-you always have to worry, especially if you're a high profile person.

i do think it's funny that burke is suggesting that since majerus is a basketball coach, he's somehow now a church leader. no, he's a coach. i doubt anyone goes to their coach for theology lessons.

IrishofNDMan 01-23-2008 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3210049

Majerus shouldn't be in trouble for this. He's a HIRED employee and he has the right to feel however he wants to. In my opinion, if the bishop had said that he wanted the university to fire him because he's not right for the university, that would be different. But to be upset with him for expressing his personal views is wrong. It was a personal view, not the view of the university.

While he can say what he wants and believe what he wants, if the University wants to do something to him for it they have every right. It's the same as a teacher who recently got fired at a Catholic school because they found out she had an abortion.

This University, or school in the case of the teacher pays the bills, and if they want to take action they can do so.


Majerus is going to have a heart attack within the next 2 years, so I think they should just let him be.

IrishofNDMan 01-23-2008 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I forgot to add, he absolutely should not be reprimanded or fired. It's ridiculous, and so is the thought he should be fired. What does his thoughts on abortion have to do with his coaching?

I'm not saying fire him, lets get that straight.

He is representing the UNIVERSITY which happens to be a Catholic University. If they feel like he makes their University look bad, then why can't they do something to him?

IrishofNDMan 01-23-2008 06:27 PM

Hoss, lets just imagine that someone works for you. Lets say that someone went out on record saying he is against certain things that were high beliefs of yours. Would that piss you off a little seeing as how your putting food on his table?

fpsoxfan 01-23-2008 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
A Catholic School just fired a teacher for having an abortion????? That's rich. Too bad they weren't as swiftly moving with the priests that were screwing kids all of those years. Nothing like some good old fashioned hypocrisy.

Excellent point Hoss!!!

fpsoxfan 01-23-2008 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
Hoss, lets just imagine that someone works for you. Lets say that someone went out on record saying he is against certain things that were high beliefs of yours. Would that piss you off a little seeing as how your putting food on his table?

Irish, it doesn't work that way in the real world. I'm just as catholic as you are, but this is a clear case of hypocrisy. How many employers really care about their employees stance on abortion?

IrishofNDMan 01-23-2008 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
Irish, it doesn't work that way in the real world. I'm just as catholic as you are, but this is a clear case of hypocrisy. How many employers really care about their employees stance on abortion?

Ok, I see what you are saying, but the only one who can decide what is done about it is the University, and it is their right to do whatever they please.

IrishofNDMan 01-23-2008 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
A Catholic School just fired a teacher for having an abortion????? That's rich. Too bad they weren't as swiftly moving with the priests that were screwing kids all of those years. Nothing like some good old fashioned hypocrisy.

Don't get me wrong Hoss, I agree with you here and that is obviously a very dark and sick thing that occured.

fpsoxfan 01-23-2008 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
Ok, I see what you are saying, but the only one who can decide what is done about it is the University, and it is their right to do whatever they please.

There's no doubt it's their right, but I think to fire him would be a little harsh.

IrishofNDMan 01-23-2008 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
There's no doubt it's their right, but I think to fire him would be a little harsh.

If the team is doing sh*tty, they can kill two birds with one stone.

They won't fire him, and I don't think any action will be taken. I don't think any action should be taken either, but it is not up to me nor anyone else.


Jacobson got a week without pay, nothing should be done to this chunk. I'm just a white male, who happens to be catholic as well trying to get by all the double standards that are held in America today.

IrishofNDMan 01-23-2008 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I honestly wouldn't think about it like that. It's work, I wouldn't care what they thought about issues like abortion. Work is work. And I definitely wouldn't fire or punish someone for having different beliefs as me. Think about that for a second. That's what is happening, people are and were being punished for their beliefs. I'm not trying to be high and mighty here, but that's just wrong.

People get punished all the time for their beliefs, you don't know this?

King Glorious 01-23-2008 07:04 PM

They should have probably asked him his views BEFORE they hired him. If they would have a problem with his beliefs, the time to find that out is beforehand. Now, if they had come to him and said something like "it's your right to believe how you want to but publicly, we don't ever want you to express views opposite of ours", that would be different. But short of that, I don't think that the university would have any legal legs to stand on as far as any kind of reprimand for his comments. In fact, I am thinking that if they acted at all, they would be the ones facing legal action.

King Glorious 01-23-2008 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
A Catholic School just fired a teacher for having an abortion????? That's rich. Too bad they weren't as swiftly moving with the priests that were screwing kids all of those years. Nothing like some good old fashioned hypocrisy.

Best post ever.


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