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JJP 11-12-2007 07:19 PM

NFL top 5
 
No need to mention any others because the rest are all pretenders.

1. New England--best in the past 10 years
2. Indianapolis---6 picks, 2 returns allowed on the road and they STILL should've won
3. Dallas---the best balanced team in the NFC
4. Pittsburgh---wouldn't be shocked if they knocked off NE
5. Green Bay---give it up doubters; they are for real

Hickory Hill Hoff 11-12-2007 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP
No need to mention any others because the rest are all pretenders.

1. New England--best in the past 10 years
2. Indianapolis---6 picks, 2 returns allowed on the road and they STILL should've won
3. Dallas---the best balanced team in the NFC
4. Pittsburgh---wouldn't be shocked if they knocked off NE
5. Green Bay---give it up doubters; they are for real


Even as a "diehard" Steeler fan that I am.....I highly doubt this :(

skippy3481 11-12-2007 07:57 PM

Why, I'm not a steeler fan at all and they have a solid shot. The huge downside being they have to play in foxboro, they have the exact blueprint of a team that could beat the pats. They have a top tier defense, they is comletely physical. They have a top teir offense with wide recievers they are not afraid to take a hit(pats have a physical secondary) and they have a running back who is capable of going yard everytime he touches the ball. If they can keep the mental lapses from happening, they have a very legit chance to win that game.

The Indomitable DrugS 11-12-2007 08:02 PM

If Baltimore can get their two corners healthy - I actually think they have the best shot at beating NE of any team left on the schedule under the assumption that NE plays to win the Giants game.

There are a lot of players on the Ravens with a lot of pride - and beating NE at home would be something of a way of salvaging a disappointing season.

When they are healthy and at home - they can be artists on defense.

I think Brian Billick has a great understanding of Moss - he was his O-coordinator in Minnesota that one season when they set the NFL scoring record. The Pats offense looks very similar to the '98 Vikings offense - only they throw the ball more with a qb upgrade from a decrepit Randall Cunningham to an outstandingly accurate Tom Brady - however, they don't have a Robert Smith to run the ball with.

Baltimore's passing game is obviously going to have to play their best game of the season to pull off the upset though.

Coach Pants 11-12-2007 08:03 PM

Lol DrugS!

GPK 11-12-2007 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
If Baltimore can get their two corners healthy - I actually think they have the best shot at beating NE of any team left on the schedule under the assumption that NE plays to win the Giants game.

There are a lot of players on the Ravens with a lot of pride - and beating NE at home would be something of a way of salvaging a disappointing season.

When they are healthy and at home - they can be artists on defense.

I think Brian Billick has a great understanding of Moss - he was his O-coordinator in Minnesota that one season when they set the NFL scoring record. The Pats offense looks very similar to the '98 Vikings offense - only they throw the ball more with a qb upgrade from a decrepit Randall Cunningham to an outstandingly accurate Tom Brady - however, they don't have a Robert Smith to run the ball with.

Baltimore's passing game is obviously going to have to play their best game of the season to pull off the upset though.



Uh...Drugs...dont they need to find that passing game first??

MaTH716 11-12-2007 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
If Baltimore can get their two corners healthy - I actually think they have the best shot at beating NE of any team left on the schedule under the assumption that NE plays to win the Giants game.

There are a lot of players on the Ravens with a lot of pride - and beating NE at home would be something of a way of salvaging a disappointing season.

When they are healthy and at home - they can be artists on defense.

I think Brian Billick has a great understanding of Moss - he was his O-coordinator in Minnesota that one season when they set the NFL scoring record. The Pats offense looks very similar to the '98 Vikings offense - only they throw the ball more with a qb upgrade from a decrepit Randall Cunningham to an outstandingly accurate Tom Brady - however, they don't have a Robert Smith to run the ball with.

Baltimore's passing game is obviously going to have to play their best game of the season to pull off the upset though.

I think the Pats Defense might out score the Ravens Offense.

The Indomitable DrugS 11-12-2007 08:09 PM

As I've stated before - the flip of a coin can handicap football games as good as I - however, I expect Baltimore will have a much better passing game than people think when they play the Pats.

They are a team that can historically be very dangerous as underdogs in big games.

I fear a healthy Baltimore at home much more than a Steelers team on the road - that's for sure.

hi_im_god 11-12-2007 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP
No need to mention any others because the rest are all pretenders.

1. New England--best in the past 10 years
2. Indianapolis---6 picks, 2 returns allowed on the road and they STILL should've won
3. Dallas---the best balanced team in the NFC
4. Pittsburgh---wouldn't be shocked if they knocked off NE
5. Green Bay---give it up doubters; they are for real

"4. Pittsburgh---wouldn't be shocked if they knocked off NE"

everyone else would. pittsburgh figured out a way to lose to arizona. how do you think they beat the "best in the past 10 yeras"?

The Indomitable DrugS 11-12-2007 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
"4. Pittsburgh---wouldn't be shocked if they knocked off NE"

everyone else would. pittsburgh figured out a way to lose to arizona. how do you think they beat the "best in the past 10 yeras"?

They have a lot of rookie coaches and Bellichick has yet to steal all their signals?

JJP 11-12-2007 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
If Baltimore can get their two corners healthy - I actually think they have the best shot at beating NE of any team left on the schedule under the assumption that NE plays to win the Giants game.

There are a lot of players on the Ravens with a lot of pride - and beating NE at home would be something of a way of salvaging a disappointing season.

When they are healthy and at home - they can be artists on defense.

I think Brian Billick has a great understanding of Moss - he was his O-coordinator in Minnesota that one season when they set the NFL scoring record. The Pats offense looks very similar to the '98 Vikings offense - only they throw the ball more with a qb upgrade from a decrepit Randall Cunningham to an outstandingly accurate Tom Brady - however, they don't have a Robert Smith to run the ball with.

Baltimore's passing game is obviously going to have to play their best game of the season to pull off the upset though.


I realize Baltimore has injuries but right now their offense is the worst in the NFL. They have ZERO chance of beating New England. Cincinnati is a terrible team and the Ravens just lost by double digits to them......this is a perfect example of what happens when a team gets old in a hurry.

JJP 11-12-2007 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
"4. Pittsburgh---wouldn't be shocked if they knocked off NE"

everyone else would. pittsburgh figured out a way to lose to arizona. how do you think they beat the "best in the past 10 yeras"?


Do you watch the NFL at all? We just saw an 0-7 team go on the road and beat a team off a 4 game win streak. They are called upsets. Pittsburgh right now has no weakness; excellent defense, running game, QB and special teams.

hi_im_god 11-12-2007 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP
Do you watch the NFL at all? We just saw an 0-7 team go on the road and beat a team off a 4 game win streak. They are called upsets. Pittsburgh right now has no weakness; excellent defense, running game, QB and special teams.

we just saw one 0-4 team beat another 0-4 team. if you can ignore the loss to arizona, i can ignore the last 5 weeks.

Scav 11-13-2007 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JJP
Do you watch the NFL at all? We just saw an 0-7 team go on the road and beat a team off a 4 game win streak. They are called upsets. Pittsburgh right now has no weakness; excellent defense, running game, QB and special teams.

I happen to agree with you in regards to Pittsburgh being capable of beating NE. They are the "could be any kind" type of horse. This being said, that game is at NE, if this game were at Pittsburgh I would say they have a shot. I have never seen a team so focused as this one (Granted, I haven't been along and coherent in the sporting world for 30-40 years like some here).

There schedule really lines up well for this opportunity of going undefeated and I think the Giants, the last game of the season, could be a real barn barner. Giants will probably still have something to play for and will need the win, and the extra incentive of not letting a team go undefeated. And guess what, more then half the nation won't be able to watch it because it is on the NFL NETWORK.

Danzig 11-13-2007 03:12 AM

i could see the steelers knocking the pats off. colts came close, and i think the steelers have a better D than indy.

pats are playing really well, and it's really hard to imagine them losing to anyone the way they're playing. but, other than in 1972, someone eventually knocked off that last undefeated powerhouse.

ddthetide 11-13-2007 05:31 AM

i too am a steelers fan and i don't see them beating ne on the road. the steelers play the kind of game that could upset them.
i'd rather see the steelers lose the regular season meeting close, then take a good run at ne in the playoffs.

declansharbor 11-13-2007 06:52 AM

I have a better chance to dig out Jessica Biel than the Ravens do of scoring the necessary points it'll take to beat the Pats. When Demetrius Williams is your playmaking WR, that says alot. Mason might as well hang it up along with my team's garbage. Kearse and Dawkins are yesterday's mayonnaise.
I thought I went out on a limb by saying the Skins had a shot to take down Goliath. Man o man.

Danzig 11-13-2007 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
i too am a steelers fan and i don't see them beating ne on the road. the steelers play the kind of game that could upset them.
i'd rather see the steelers lose the regular season meeting close, then take a good run at ne in the playoffs.

i don't think they will beat the pats, but i wouldn't be surprised if they were able to take them down.

Danzig 11-13-2007 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
I have a better chance to dig out Jessica Biel than the Ravens do of scoring the necessary points it'll take to beat the Pats. When Demetrius Williams is your playmaking WR, that says alot. Mason might as well hang it up along with my team's garbage. Kearse and Dawkins are yesterday's mayonnaise.
I thought I went out on a limb by saying the Skins had a shot to take down Goliath. Man o man.

you did. a precarious, rotten limb!

i love the skins, but i knew damn well they couldn't beat new england. hell, they couldn't even beat the eagles. still can't believe that one.

declansharbor 11-13-2007 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
you did. a precarious, rotten limb!

i love the skins, but i knew damn well they couldn't beat new england. hell, they couldn't even beat the eagles. still can't believe that one.

When the Eagles have their backs against the wall, they usually play well. If they happened to be coming off of a win last week, the outcome of this game would probably have been different. They get ultra complacent.
The Skins will bounce back. I think the G Men will do their usual second half of the year crumble. With Plax's ankle in shambles, their bread and butter (play action, deep to Burress) seems to be in jeopardy.


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